Obama's Silent Coup

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  1. Carterantebi

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    And there we go, that was the "something needs to be done" response I specifically said I didn't want. In detail, how are we supposed to cut carbon emissions? I already know you think we need to drastically reduce CO2, but how do we do that exactly? Cars aren't going anywhere, Asia isn't going anywhere, and neither are our lungs.
     
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    No one is dragging or resisting anything. Right now the most efficient way to provide energy is to burn gas. Nuclear is honestly the cleanest most reliable form of energy poduction yet the same anti fossil fuel group complains about nuclear. Windmills and solar are proving to not be a reliable source for large amounts of energy. The US especially California is one of the most environmentally friendly countries based on the size of our economy and population.
    Do you know Al Gore makes a lot of money off the carbon credit trade? He doesn't want us to stop using fossil fuels. He knows there is no other solution but guilty everyone into feeling guilty for using fuel so they pass laws that allow him to broker carbon credits. It's a scam.
     
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    I didn't say "something" needs to be done. I specifically said that one great start would be for the United States to take a lead in renewables the way we did the research, spent the money, and took the lead in the space race once upon a time.
    I have to ask, if you don't believe that man made co2 is the culprit then why would cars or Asia matter?
    Let's pretend for a minute that it has nothing to do with co2. Investing in renewables would only serve to make the United States more energy independent, cleaner ( no more coal sludge ponds and mountain removing in West Virginia, no more mercury contaminated fish in our local lakes, no more smog in Cali...etc ) and create sustainable jobs and industry. Oh, but the poor Koch bros might not take home another bazillion dollar a day. Darn. :(
     
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    I never said they were a problem, you did.
     
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    Sounds like you just hate capitalist. By the way the mercury in the lakes is natural it's not from man. The bay is another story.
     
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    Oh, this is the new denial! Yes it's warming, ok it's not a hoax, but it's something OTHER than human co2. It couldn't possibly be that!

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Lol. Okey dokey.
     
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    Lead is natural too. I have some lead paint chips if you'd like some.
     
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    What's that got to do with anything. The mercury in our lakes came from the ground. Where do you think the mercury came from?
     
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    I'm just saying cars, Asia, and lungs because I'm curious to see what your solution is since you claim we need to eliminate carbon emissions immediately. My point is that CO2 isn't going anywhere but you're making it seem as if we can just snap our fingers, spin in a circle, clap our hands twice, and it will magically go away. By the way, coal is naturally occurring, mercury in fish is naturally occurring regardless of whether or not the Koch Brothers have some sort of scheme to poison the 3 people who actually keep lmb via mercury. You think the tuna swimming around in the middle of lake pacific have extremely high mercury levels because of a power plant thousands of miles away?
     
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    So the united states can pass more green laws that cost companies more money, eventually making products cost more. Cost of living in california goes up even more. And our impact on co2 reduction would be what? Now lets get the other mass producing co2 countries to get on the bandwagon. Highly doubt that any other country would be into spending money on that.
     
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    Wow can you explain how co2 causes global warming? Can you show us the amount consumed by plants vs remains unconsumed? How come temps peak and drop before co2 peaks and drops? You claim mercury in San Diego lakes is caused by man, what were they building ships at el cap? You bought into a lie and now you cognitive dissonance is not allowing you to see the truth. You insult the Koch Brothers but have no problem with Al Gore pushing a co2 theory so he can broker carbon credits? Wow what a hypocrite. Stop eating those lead paint chips you mentioned earlier.
     
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    Are you not reading. No one said climate change is not happening. We have had 3 ice ages that all melted long before man invented anything. Climate change happens we know that we just believe it's naturally occurring unless evedince shows otherwise and no evedince has ever been provided. Instead they just belittle anyone who asks for evedince. They make claims that never come true.
     
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    Didn't happen to me but then again I never trusted Glenn Beck.
     
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    No he is not a real scientist, sorry, kinda like finding out pro wrestling was fake.
     
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    whaaaa? But he's so stable and dependable. Dependable Beck..Wasn't that his nickname?
     
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    Not to me. He was okay but definitely went off the deepnend. I'm not a conservative but more a constitutional libertarian. He has some good points but some stuff is out there. I never trust a end of times conspiracy. Most are utter BS just like man made global warming.
    You sent me to a dead link to some liberal tree hugging website. Utter Fail.
     
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    RWoman are you a mercury is natural denier?
     
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