9/14 1st trip mission beach

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  1. JWBee

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    went out with a more experienced buddy of mine for my first official kayak trip in my new but used stealth 12. Didn’t expect much, just wanted to get a feel for things on a longer paddle with some gear. Kayak is still stock besides the rudder that was included with the sale, don’t want to add any more extras till I get a better feel for what I need and how I want to rig it up. I brought a 30# setup for bottom fishing or to troll/flyline live bait if I caught any, a light spinning reel just Incase I ran into some bonies, and my newly built sabiki rod I built out of pvc. Launched at mariners basin and rode out the jetty around 8. Was hoping to find the buoys for the shipwrecks I’ve read about and looked up on Navionics since I don’t have a fish finder. No luck. Rode out at least a mile north west but didn’t find any structure. I think I might’ve rode out too far cuz I could see a diving ship a lot closer in and I assume they were diving at one of the wrecks. I trolled the sabiki rig for no luck. I also brought some market squid from Zion just in case I couldn’t make any bait, no luck with fishing that on the bottom. Seas were super calm. That sun was beating down on me though, glad I wore a long sleeve and a hat lol. Next time I gotta make sure to put sunscreen on legs tho cuz they’re screaming rn lol. Had a fun first trip and learned a bunch, also got a better idea of what I need to buy, first thing being a better seat and paddle lol. Got back to the truck around 2, swell picked up a little by then but it wasn’t bad. Also learned I need a better roof rack that’s easier to load especially after a long paddle lol. Thanks for reading and and would appreciate any tips y’all have, especially for someone without a fishfinder(I probably won’t buy one till next season). Jack

    Accessories I own:
    Kayak cart
    Rudder
    Rack
    Scotty rod holder (not mounted)
    Vest w/ safety knife and whistle
    Sponge(for bailing water)
    Rope
    Rod leashes

    Accessories I plan to buy:
    Better car rack
    Better seat with higher back
    Better paddle (I’ll keep the other as a spare)
    Flag/light pole for better visibility
    VHF radio
    Pump for built in tank
    Game clip
    Soft cooler that’ll fit the rear tank well
    Kelp clip
    Fishfinder(this will be last)

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    Hi, I was out side PB also yesterday. I had gone to Tidelands Park in Coronado to volunteer for the Heroes on the Water event, but after setting things up it got cancelled due to signs on the beach that a city water test had found unsafe levels of bacteria, so instead of driving all the way home I thought I might as well go fishing of Dana Landing and drift for Spotties and Halibut. Since it was going to be just guiding and mentoring some Vets, I did not bring my bait tank, saltwater heavier gear or worse of all my soft cooler full of beer. So I got a couple big tall beers and launched at Dana Landing around 9:15. After some fishing around the bridge, I got bored and pedaled out the jetty. Once out there I went to a spot that last April I caught several large Calicos that helped me land 3rd place in the bass division in the Mission Bay Classic Kayak Fishing Tournament. On the FF there lots of good marks but all I had was two bass rods with artificial swim baits. I at least had some UniButter scent to help. Trolled and drifted a bunch and all I caught were two Large Bonitos, both got released. I went to the marking for a wreck on my chart and cruised in circle but never saw the wreck on the FF. Then went over to the two buoys and same thing did not show up on the sonar or downscan. There were areas of bottom structure but never did see the wrecks. Water was only 70.8 which was 5 degrees lower that Thursday in La Jolla. In the Malibu Stealth you at least have a stable kayak for the choppy water like it got late afternoon due to the wind. I mostly fish from my Hobie Revo 13, but prefer my Malibu X Factor for choppy water or higher surf condition, especially in surf landing. I would recommend that you use leashes on all your rods and any loose gear ( tackle, lure boxes ) on deck. I use ones made out of 1/8" bungee that have velcro at the rod handle and a carabiner to attach to the deck. I installed several extra eyelet deck hardware. Get and carry a hand bilge pump, they only cost around $23 at west marine or order from walmart, an important safety tool for if water gets inside the kayak it can be real hard to stay on top off. For your built in bait tank, you should order this from walmart (because they don't carry this one at most of their stores) it is great and how I set up the bait tank on my Malibu X Factor, it has all you will need except for a waterproof switch some wire and a 6 volt battery ( so it runs at a slower speed and let the battery last longer, and bait don't have to swim so hard in the tank. Here is a link, this comes with the pump that goes through the hull in the built in recess, the hose and the aerator. That will allow you to have the tank totally functional, a big difference when fishing in the ocean. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tsunami-...-990-16d37d01b9c8d4&athancid=null&athena=true Not trying to highjack your post, just offering some tips and fish porn pictures from Thursday to motivate you. All fish were released. Tight Lines

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    Thanks for the tips! I’ll def get some more rod leashes. I only had two so I leashed the paddle and the sabiki rod, good thing cuz someone’s wake caused it to bounce out of the holder lol. And I’ll def add that bilge pump to the top of the list. So are you allowed to drink on the kayak? A buddy of mine told me you can still get a dui despite it not having a motor...
     
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    never heard of anyone getting a DUI on a kayak, but depending on your ability to handle liquor, you don't want to get so buzzed that you would endanger yourself with lack of coordination. The amount of exercise you get on the kayak burns off the alcohol in your system quite fast. I never have a problem and I usually take 4 beers with me for a 6-8 hour day on the water and I make sure I have food in me before going out and take a sandwich for lunch, also carry water (although I usually say I carry that, for rinsing off the screen on the FF, Ha Ha.) As long as you don't drink on the beach (Illegal in San Diego) or have a motor on the kayak it's ok. Another very important safety thing is to have practiced how to get back into the kayak if you go overboard. Practice it in water at least 7' deep while wearing your PFD, leave all the fishing gear out to start. You can end up in the water faster than you can say " OH Sh...!" and if you are alone in deep water that's not the time to see how hard it is to do.
     
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    Thanks again for the tips! I’ll have to practice getting in and out of the kayak next time I take her out(in the bay of course)
     
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    A couple things.. get a FF, even a cheapie, it will make your life much easier, especially if you plan to fish the bottom. One of the good local maps can help immensely as well, very cheap in the long run as something you may consult often. Also, haul your kayak into a couple feet of water and goof off a bit. Try to stand, see where it tips over, see if you fall out before it rolls, how far forward and aft you can go.. you might be surprised.

    Fishing wise, I would say, work the jetties if the day is calm enough. You know where the structure is, there is tons of kelp, big rocks etc. Scale down your hook size and bait, you shouldn't have any problem catching all kinds of smaller fish if you pay attention. If you fish them at sundown, some real big fish of several types come out to play when conditions are right. At sunrise and sunset, yellows can visit the end of either jetty when bait is present. Directly west of the jetties, the bottom can absolutely be covered with sharks if the seaforth half days have been doing well, with a few BSB mixed in. In season, the bonito sometimes hang out just west of the sea lion buoy. There is some light reef structure in this area, but sometimes it seems like it gets buried in sand...
     
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    Thanks coach! I really like that idea of testing the limits of the kayak, that’ll def boost my confidence. And what you said about the fish finder makes total sense, I was gonna put it off due to cost but after countless hours of research it makes my head spin lol. Just when I think I know what I need I read something else that totally negates it. And all the features that are available doesn’t help such as downscan, chirp, sidescan(I think I know what all of these mean, I’m just not sure if I need it). Luckily I do have it narrowed down to a Lowrance to make use of the under hull mounting area. Do you think I’ll be okay with the hook4x with the gps plotter? And when you’re talking about the local maps, do you mean the navionics chip or are there other digital options or even some kind of physical map I can buy?
     
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    I hear bad things about lowrance, but no personal experience. You need a FF to tell you three things: depth, bottom type and bait. That simple. Any modern one will do these three easily, even cheaper versions. Large screens and extra features are nice, they do run your battery down MUCH faster. Where plotting and GPS come in, is when you want to return to a spot. Say you find a big rock in 85' of water straight west of the OB pier (cough, hint, cough) and you catch a nice sheephead there. How would you find THAT rock again? Hell of a lot easier with some sort of GPS plotter.. other features are nice, but you asked what you need...
     
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    I appreciate the breakdown. Yeah at this point I’m trying to keep it simple and try to get just what I need. All of these new “hobbies” are starting to hurt the finances haha. I’ve been trying to live by something I read on here when I first started out a year ago(actually I think you wrote it) to start with entry level stuff and upgrade as I get more advanced. Hopefully I’ll have some knowledgeable posts to contribute after I get the kayak rigged up and get my “sea legs”. Thanks again!
     
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    Well.. keep making posts, hit me up in PM if you think it is sensitive or don't want to blow up your spot.. one piece of advice.. get together with RolloTomasi and hit it. He and I have talked for hours about that very area and he may have absorbed a bit of the 6 years I spent out there a few times a week at sundown...
     
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    I think I’m years away from having “a spot” haha. Would you launch from the bay and ride out the jetty? I was also thinking that it might be easier to launch from dog beach, but I’ve only seen it from across the jetty lol. And that sea lion buoy you mentioned, my buddy and I tried looking for that one too but no luck. Is there a name for it so I can look up the coordinates? The only buoys I noticed on navionics are the subm obstn (submerged obstruction?) buoy
     
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    1. Lower-end Lowrance is not very durable, in my experience - I like my Garmin
    2. Hit me up - I’ve found Werf’s spot
    3. I’ve got vacation time coming up
     
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    After a lot of trial and error, I always launched from mariners basin and paddled out the jetties. The sea lion buoy is just west of south jetty a couple hundred yards.. listen for the barking, can't miss the thing when they are on it. Good bait making place too... And all the local shops, pretty much, have laminated maps of our local inshore and offshore areas.. take Mr Rollo up on the offer...
     
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    Thanks man! I’ll def be hitting you up soon. And I appreciate the heads up on Lowrance, i guess I’ll have to keep looking. I do like that Garmin striker, like the idea of it being sleeker despite the smaller screen.
     
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    Well dang, I guess I didn’t paddle out as far as I thought lol. Don’t know how I could’ve missed that. I’ll have to pick one of those laminated maps up next time I swing by Squidco
     
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    Probably passed it up without even noticing.. lol. I used to fish the old MB 100 buoy occasionally.. it sank a couple years back and they never replaced it.. that was an awesome spot
     
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    Uhh.. I was on my browser phone and found the Garmin Striker 4 for 84$ .. if this is legit (looks like it, anyway), could be your chance to snatch one up cheap... Apparently part of the 30 hour sale! Holy crap

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    The ff also allows me to watch my bait drop so I can start my jigging just above bottom.

    A gps ff can also help you return to port in heavy fog and/or at night.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up! It won’t let me buy it from my phone, I’ll have to try it from my laptop when I get home from work
     
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