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  1. Dylan 101

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    My baitcaster is ruined... it makes a bad sound but for only 40$ that thing is amazing. Had it for a year. So I want to get a new baitcaster. THAT IS SALTWATER APPEOVED! My price range is 50-70$ I heard the Daiwa RG baitcaster is good but I don’t know yet.so I just need some suggestions. Thanks!
     
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    You can use a freshwater baitcaster in saltwater without wrecking it. You just need to make sure that you rinse it off thoroughly after each use, and that you take it apart, clean and lube it every five uses. Probably a good idea to that with saltwater model as well.
     
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    For the last 20 years I have been using Shimano’s lowest price baitcasters for light saltwater work such as fishing the bays.

    Currently that is the Caius, one of which I have been using for 5 or so years. I also have a Callisto that is a dozen or more years old and still works perfectly after about a dozen years.

    The Caius and Caius-B fit in your price range.

    I spray them with a spray bottle with water and dish soap and let them sit for 5-10 minutes. The soapy water helps loosen salt deposits. Then take a toothbrush to exterior nooks and crannies to bush out the loosened salt then rinse in a light stream of warm tap water. I use a light stream to avoid pushing any salt deep into the reel. I do not submerge the reel when cleaning. Once a year I disassemble, clean, and lube the reel if necessary.

    Sometimes if a bait caster is making a bad sound, disassembling, cleaning, and lubing will take care of it nothing is actually broken.

    if the reel gets submerged in saltwater I will disassemble and do the more in depth cleaning that I usually only do once a year.

    Maintaining as described above has resulting in me getting many years of saltwater service out of some “freshwater” reels. I have a Daiwa Millionaire 5H that I bought in 1978 that still works fine.
     
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    Black Max for $50... pretty hard to beat and has lasted me... 3 years now with only taking it apart and cleaning it every couple months.
     
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    take the spool out & a few drops of oil on the bearings & a quick cleaning will do amazing things to what you think is ruined...
    i have a 25 year old shimano magnum that has seen everything & the damn thing won't die....
    Its not like the quality back then was superior to todays reels.
    Makes noise when you cast? Your bearings are screaming for some love...
    Especially those small bait casters, you have to periodically lube the bearings, its a must!
    Don't just toss it just yet, even if you want a new reel...
     
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    Just because it makes a bad sound doesn't mean you can't fix it. I'd take it apart and check it out. Bearings are probably corroded. If shielded, you can take the shields off and give them a soak in white vinegar to try remove corrosion. Give it a little scrub then add some grease and oil and it should be good to go.
     
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    I'm not much of a bait caster expert or even user, but the one I use (when I feel like fishing with it) is the abu Garcia Silver max bait caster. It cost me like $70 at what was lakeside bait n tackle.
     
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    I second this. My abu orra winch has lasted me over 3 years in the salt too with minimal maintnence.. 70 bucks for that reel. Abu Black max is the most popular starter baitcaster for a reason.
     
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    I’ve tried taking apart and cleaning my reel with soap, water and reel cleaner but no progress
     
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    That caius looks very nice. Are the bearings sheilded do you know?
     
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    It does not. Shielded bearings are expensive. The lowest price Shimano reel with their sA-RB shielded bearings is the Cronarch I think at about $279
     
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    Oh. I think I might just look into that caius
     
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    Dylan 101 I think you need to realize that shielded vs sealed are two different bearings , shields just keep the big stuff out but allow liquid in and out , sealed have a lip of material that makes contact with the rotating inner portion of the bearing keeping oil in and debris and liquid out. Sealed bearings are seldom used in applications of the spool due to the friction they create slowing the spool down . They are used in handles and level winds or rotors on spinners where rotational speed is not critical .The Shimano reels I have that are equipped with ARB bearings have no shields or seals at all . The theory is that they are easier to lube and the open cage allows any liquid IE water to dry out before causing corrosion . I find that even when using top notch bearings like Boca orange shield that removing the shield on the side that you can see when assembled lets you clean and lube without having to soak and try to get the cleaner out and the lube back in . It is tough to get the shields off without damage for repeated cleaning . If the reel you have has bad bearings the replacement would be straight forward but quality bearings could cost as much as the reel did . Hope this helps a little . Good luck in your research . WR
     
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    Do you work at a tackle shop jeez. Thanks!
     
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    Just a mechanic my entire working career . Have always serviced my own reels . I have to confess that there were a few in my early years that took a while to get working properly . Just don't loose any parts and lay them out so things go back factory exact . A parts blow up picture of the reels you work on can be your best friend . Tight lines !
     
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    I'm thinking Master Mechanic would better describe WR!
     
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    Try to find an inexpensive sonic jewelry cleaner. Drop the bearings in and it will help to vibrate the crud out of them.
    Simple Green or anything like that will work for the solution. You can Google what people use as the solution.
     
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    When my citica took a dump I bought this guy as a cheap fill in until I was ready to buy another "nice" reel.

    https://www.piscifun.com/collection...-torrent-baitcasting-reel?variant=40028986832

    I did a test with it and opened it up when i got it and lubed it and oiled the bearings....and I havent opened it up since....fish it probably 2-3 times a week. Just give it the hose every few trips. Havent felt the need to buy another reel for the bay.

    The drag is a bit weak, but its not a deal breaker....for 40 bucks I can't find anything that will beat it. Also, if you sign up for their news letter I think you get an extra 15% off.....so You end up with the thing delivered to your door for like 35 bucks.

    It does have a little screw in the cranks sideplate you can back out and all some ReelX or whatever....not sure what if anyth
     
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    I don't think you'll find a "salt water" rated baitcaster for 50-70 bucks. There are plenty of solid options that will last if taken care of in that range though. As others mentioned here, the abu black max and Piscifun torrent are both rock solid around 50$. I have one of each of those with about 2 years on them and they both still operate perfectly, I just rinse the spool well every trip and do a quick cleaning. I open my baitcasters up and do a full clean and lube maybe 3 or 4 times a year. Lately I've been fishing a Cadence CB8 baitcaster for my shore duties and i think it performs and feels a little better than the abu and piscifun, but is a little more money too, and I'm not sure how it will age yet.
     
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