Breaking the stereotype

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  1. Creek

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    Seems like Feinstein is in the middle of everything just to ensure her face is always in the media spotlight. She's the most prominent figure in the Kavanaugh hearings.. well over the top of Kavanaugh himself. So I guess we should start calling them The Feinstein Hearings.
     
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    Are you outraged, triggered and angry now? Did they not do enough reporting about her being transgender to your liking? All kinds of people have mental problems. Even the most conservative religious priests who like to molest little children have mental problems. The many diseases of the Human mind truly have no bias.

    Um, it was all over news for a couple of days? I guess it just does not deserve the full week of coverage you get when you rain down over 1000 rounds on unsuspecting concert goers in Vegas, sigh....

    Did you hear about the one last week where the dad shot his two teenage kids then killed himself. It got like half the coverage and basically the same amount of people died give or take 1. What happened at Sandy Hook or the other one where a bunch of people got shot? We sort of remember that one cause it was little kindergartners. I bet you cant name the top 10 mass shootings over the last 10 years from memory.

    Are you seriously asking if the news media is biased? Are you upset cause a news media outlet is trying to tell you how to think gosh darn'it

    Yes, you can find organizations like Brietbart which have white nationalistic tendencies with adoring fans many of which are racist and Nazis and threaten civil war if anything happens to Trump within the comments section of every article. You have as many liberal media sites where every story is about the evilness of DJT and the right where they daydream of every possible way to take him down. The media is biased you can know go sleep soundly knowing what you already knew now.

    Did you know that in the last 72 hours 93 people have been killed by an act of gun violence in the USA.
    Last 72 Hours | Gun Violence Archive This does not even include stabbings, strangulation, poisoning, stoning, suffocation, intentional drowning, etc......

    I think a lot of people like to sit around and find stuff to be outraged about and have the need to tell other people what they should be outraged about when it it fits into their little tiny agenda of what they certainly know is exactly right no matter what until the end of all time...

    I fish as much as possible and I quite good at it too. The catching part keeps my rage in check and I find I am not so outraged by the voices in my head telling me the media and half the citizens of the world are biased against my set of beliefs.

    Here is a fishing tip for you. Try to go somewhere other than Sutherland where you can actually catch a fish. It might help you keep your rage in check like catching a fish helps me with the outrageous.
     
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  3. Creek

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    All of these statistics to mull through ! All legit, I'm sure. That's a lot of RED on the east coast, huh? I wonder what's going on there that causes so much violence? Just sitting here chowing down a PBJ thinking about how I may want to retire somewhere in cattle country ! No real issues there ! Was there an actual case involving stoning recently?
     
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  4. mikecheck1212

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    News stations cater to their audiences? Nothing new...just heard about the father and some who killed someone over a mattress? Haven’t heard mich about it in/on conservative media...but if it was an illegal immigrant watch out...haha..
     
  5. Fomen

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    I never once expressed outrage or insinuated it "triggered" anything in me. So unless you have a degree in psychology and you've spent time psychoanalyzing me, you're putting words in my mouth and talking our of your you know what. As a matter of fact, you're doing the very thing to me that you're accusing me of doing to the liberal media outlets in this thread. Demonizing!

    I highly doubt that you have the top 10 mass shootings over the past 10 years memorized. Why would you? Why would anyone? Not that I can't recall them, if mentioned. But I'm not really sure what that has to do with the thread I posted. As a matter of fact, I EMPHASIZED the lack of compassion and a lack of information towards the victims in an effort to maintain the stereotype. The other shootings got massive media coverage. This one didn't. It wasn't "all over the news" like you insinuated. I heard a 30 second report on it for 2 days TOPS. Why is that? That was the point of this thread.

    Then for some strange reason you throw in these examples of polar opposite extremist movements (fascists vs communists). What?!?!? Like I'm affiliated with them, or I've swallowed their proverbial Kool Aid. Nonsense.

    "I fish as much as possible and I quite good at it too. The catching part keeps my rage in check and I find I am not so outraged by the voices in my head telling me the media and half the citizens of the world are biased against my set of beliefs."

    The media and half of the citizens of the world constitute about 3.8 billion people. So if they all think you have a problem, but you think THEY have a problem, logic, common sense, and reasoning would suggest that more than likely, the common denominator is YOU and not them.

    "Here is a fishing tip for you. Try to go somewhere other than Sutherland where you can actually catch a fish. It might help you keep your rage in check like catching a fish helps me with the outrageous"

    I don't have a degree in gibberish, but I am able to interpret most of what you're saying. But this statement is a straight up emotional banter. Are you actually launching a personal attack on me for expressing my opinion.....? A personal attack on my fishing skills......? LOL. Again.... LOL!

    So in summary, you've accused me of being a right wing, fascist who doesn't really care about mass shootings, gun violence, or violent crime. And with your degree in psychology, and your scholastic excellence, you've been able to psychoanalyze me and concluded I'm oppositional defiant with triggers that manifest as rage. And lastly, if I would fish at a place with a better fishery, and I could actually catch more fish, it would help with my fits of rage and triggers, and violence. This in turn would change my attitude towards the world and redirect my philosophies. Step aside Sigmund Freud.....
     
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    [QUOTE="So in summary, you've accused me of being a right wing, fascist who doesn't really care about mass shootings, gun violence, or violent crime. And with your degree in psychology, and your scholastic excellence, you've been able to psychoanalyze me and concluded I'm oppositional defiant with triggers that manifest as rage. And lastly, if I would fish at a place with a better fishery, and I could actually catch more fish, it would help with my fits of rage and triggers, and violence. This in turn would change my attitude towards the world and redirect my philosophies. Step aside Sigmund Freud.....[/QUOTE]

    Ha! I thought you didn't get mad about what someone puts on the internets. Told you I was good at fishing.


    Or


    If the shoe fits than wear it.


    Or


    So you’re not outraged your just wondering who is and why?


    Or


    You’re a news media PHD expert with a double minor in know it all ism and you just informed Sd Fish and all its members how you think it is important for everyone to know that the liberal media hurt your snowflake feelings again, cause it was one of those transgenders who did it this time. Notice how I turned the whole snowflake thingy around.


    Or


    Sutherland really does suck and you need to venture out.


    And perhaps.


    You should book a guide and go have an epic day of catching, I bet afterwards you would not run to the Internets with an I'm so outraged that the news media is biased rant.
     
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  7. Creek

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    Heck with that.. who was laying on the mattress when the incident occurred? And was that person legal?:emoji_joy:
     
  8. Medicated fisherman

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    You do know nazis were socialists and the KKK were democrats. So please stop refering to those that you disagree with as nazis and kkk, that would be self projection.
     
  9. mikecheck1212

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    It was actually trash
     
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  10. Fomen

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    "You’re a news media PHD expert with a double minor in know it all ism and you just informed Sd Fish and all its members how you think it is important for everyone to know that the liberal media hurt your snowflake feelings again, cause it was one of those transgenders who did it this time. Notice how I turned the whole snowflake thingy around."

    This is the first thread I've posted on the Lounge in a long time. I mostly post on the fishing forums. I haven't even divulged enough information on this thread to be accused of being a know it all. The information I posted are the FACTS about the shooting, and my opinion (which I'm entitled to) regarding why it didn't get more media coverage. But when you accuse someone of being a "know it all", you're essentially saying you know more than the person you're accusing. It's the only way you can make that statement. So do you? Do you know more than me? Of all the information there is to be known in the universe, what percentage of it would you say you know? What percentage do I know? The accusation in and of itself makes ridiculous assumptions and displays massive issues with narcissism on the part of the accuser.

    I never mentioned my ethnicity. I just said the stereotypical gunman as portrayed by the liberal media is a conservative, Caucasian man. I tried to be ethnically sensitive in my description of the shooter. I even went so far as to avoid the shooters sexual identity. I always referred to the person by their last name, not by "he" or "she". I always also referred to the shooter as "African American". Isn't that the politically correct way to describe the shooters ethnicity? Anyone with a modicum of intellect can see that my thread wasn't an assault on anyone other than the liberal media. But you made some sort of assumption, and even went so far as to use the white equivalent of the "N" word. If anyone on here is prejudice, it's you! As a matter of fact, you should be banned from posting on here for your cavalier display of openly and blatantly using "off limit" racially insensitive slurs. I made sure I cut and pasted what you wrote at the top of this reply so the moderators can see it in the case you try to delete it.

    It says you've been a member since 2008, and you've only posted 130 times. Sounds like you're more of a troll than a contributor. Trolls are typically instigators- armchair quarterbacks. I've seen them come, and I've seen them go. Hopefully after the moderators see your boastful use of racial expletives, you will be gone.
     
  11. mikecheck1212

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    Yes when thee kkk was formed they were Democrats..at a time when pretty much everybody was racists..regardless though f em...but..we all know who the klan and nazis etc are voting with now..today...in my lifetime...when it actually matters...that can’t be denied...
     
  12. SurfHooks

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    You lost me, little hard to follow and read.

    You wondered into the kitchen um you know how the rest goes. I'm a very nice guy outside of the lounge, I contribute once in blue moon when it come to the fishing part. I dropped the tidbit in this thread that Sutherland is not really worth it if your into catching fish. Just an opinion. Some people refuse to go to Hodges and some people say tomato and some people say it the other way. I'm not real sure where you get the boastful use of racial expletives from, to that I will borrow a line from the almighty Cheeto, "Fake News"

    Admit it, I think your most upset about my Sutherland comment. LOL

    The very bad news it there will be yet another mass shooting in the near future and we can discuss who is outraged and which News sites report on it and for how long. When its an immigrant, transgender, Muslim or white guy who is the perp we can then point our fingers at the other side and say I told you so. We can then forget about it and wait till the next one.

    We can blame liberals or right wingers or who ever you want to blame. We can be part of the problem or try to help solve the problem.

    As far as what I know, like know know; its not much. That is the difference from me and a lot of people. The older I get, the less I feel know.

    You can report me, if the moderators feel I have done something wrong than they will tell me and I would immediately stop engaging with you. Where's the fun in that though. I thought that's why you come to the lounge and engage people by starting politically charged threads??
     
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  13. SurfHooks

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    I know my history. I am even pretty current on it. Here is a lesson below form Mikecheck.

    I was in no way calling anyone on this thread either of those names.

    My reference was to some fans of Brietbart and how they post on every article. Go and read one, It will not take long to get to every manner of racism and bigotry. They also talk a lot about a civil war. Its pretty far out there most of the time.

    I was not calling anyone a racist or Nazi, He was asking about bias in the media and simply pointed out that there are several biased media outlets from right to left and left to right. I used Brietbart as an example.

    "Lighten up, Francis"
     
  14. Creek

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    I enjoy a little Breitbart every now and then, and I tend to have no fear of posting anything in the Lounge. Does anyone here care to point the finger my direction and call me racist for occasionally reading Breitbart?

    On the flipside - so as not to upset anyone, I also enjoy watching CNN once in a while.. but I will admit that I only watch CNN when they've soiled themselves over false information they purposely cultivated against the Office of the President. There's nothing funnier than watching a CNN reporter go out of his or her mind on live television.
     
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    1. You've got one thing right- you correspond once in a blue moon. Notice I didn't use the term "contribute" like you used. There's a reason for this. I saw that in 10 years you've only posted 130 times. So I took the liberty to review your posts. I checked the topics and the content. After all, 130 posts really doesn't take long to review. I wasn't surprised to find that 98% of your posts are argumentative and revolve around controversial threads and topics. I actually found where you wrote in one of your posts that you're striving to be the longest active member with the least number of posts. So for you to even insinuate that you're "contributing" to the forum is a GROSS overstatement. Based off your history, the term contribution would be counter-intuitive to reality.

    2. I lost you.....? LOL. Not a surprise. Let me simplify my point regarding the "know it all" accusation. If you accuse someone of being intolerant, you're inadvertently committing the act of intolerance. Same with labeling someone as a know it all. You're inadvertently announcing that you know more than that person. It's the only way you could logically make the statement. Seeing as how you know NOTHING about me, you're accusation is nullified. And seeing as how we don't have a relationship, your accusation means ZIP, ZERO, NADA to me anyways.

    3. "I'm not real sure where you get the boastful use of racial expletives from, to that I will borrow a line from the almighty Cheeto, "Fake News"

    Here's a cut and paste from what you wrote to me:

    "You’re a news media PHD expert with a double minor in know it all ism and you just informed Sd Fish and all its members how you think it is important for everyone to know that the liberal media hurt your snowflake feelings again, cause it was one of those transgenders who did it this time. Notice how I turned the whole snowflake thingy around.

    So, please tell me what "snowflake" means, other than it's obvious meaning within your context as a racial jab? Then in the same sentence you openly bragged about using it. Then you're too self absorbed and narcissistic to even recognize and own that you used it.

    Based off of all the aforementioned information (especially your history on this site), it's conclusive that you fit the criteria for a lurker- a troll. Lurkers and trolls typically contribute nothing, and they instigate fights online. This is you. 95% of my posts are fishing related. 2-3% of yours are. As I read through your posts, I noticed a common thread. You're always trying to make some sort of point, or instigate some sort of argument by kindling fire on a hot topic. I never saw a single post by you describing your day on the water, open to feedback from others. We've both been members on here since 2008. And I actually go back to early 2005, before Kellen revamped the entire website. Maybe you do too. You're a troll. Crawl back under your bridge.
     
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    Hmmmmm...I didn’t know snowflake was a racist comment considering it is a right wing term for anybody that’s not right wing..I don’t wanna get into the argument I’ve pretty much made my points...I will however get some popcorn going and continue to follow along...but again I wanted to point out that this is the first time I have ever heard anybody say snowflake was a racist comment..
     
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    Well, please share with me the context in which the term "snowflake" is used to describe a Caucasian person with endearment, endorsement, or positivity. As a matter of fact, share with me one instance where a Caucasian person called another Caucasian person a "snowflake". The term is only used by races other than Caucasian to describe a Caucasian person in a defaming manner. It's like using the term "Cracker". Have you ever heard the term "Cracker" used to describe a Caucasian person positively?

    And if what you're saying is true (about the term describing a "right wing" conservative) then the whole point of this thread and it's accusation of stereotypes is solidified. The right wing conservative is a snowflake? Let's not beat around the bush. Look at the term in it's descriptive context and conclude it's contextual description. I'm a right wing conservative, and I've NEVER used the term to describe a person that isn't right wing. The term is self explanatory as to who it would pertain to and describe.
     
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    ? Really...white conservatives have been calling white liberals (and all liberals) snowflakes for about two years now...
    I never said the term was describing “right wing conservatives “ I only stated that’s a term mostly used by people on the right against those on the left..that’s why when SurfHooks called you a snowflake he added “ see how I turned that around” or something to that affect...because it is a term started by the right...
     
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    I just did a google search on conservatives calling liberals snowflakes and a ton of videos and articles popped up...this is a well known fact..
     
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    I know this isn't my fight but..

    I've called white people snowflake before.. and I'm very white.. and conservative. If someone called me a snowflake, I could care less. I'd probably take it as an endearment - until they started shooting at me These terms are only designed to get people pizzed off. And I don't get pizzed off - at least not over any word or name that I'm called. When I think snowflake, I think of 20 year-olds that need warm blankets, soft puppies and hot cocoa.. with those little mini marshmallows.

    I've called other white people cracker as well. Why shouldn't I? Black people call each other N all the time - and they do it for fun - and because it's the cool 'hood thing to do - its part of their language. Is that okay that I call my other brother whites cracker? I think it is.

    Snowflake.. I use that one all the time. But I use it when I'm talking about people that are easily offended - like the any color, any race, any religion soft Prius owners that are seen crying and holding each other in those now-famous Hillary's Crying Election Night Camp clips on YouTube.
     
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