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  1. salt water guy

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    I think you got it. As I understand it, improper entry is a crime, whereas unlawful presence, (overstaying your visa) is punishable by civil penalties -- but you still can be deported.
     
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    Its funny how they come trickling in, if only they had a leader to organize a massive bum rush.
     
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    This is nothing new. Why were people ok with this for the past 10 years until now?
     
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    I've heard people saying this several times. I can't find any source documenting it. Please provide.
    I read the Flores vs. Reno case. I want to see some stats of Obama's administration separating kids from families. Not detaining kids who are unaccompanied. Not deporting families together, specifically separating kids from families.
     
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    Flores vs. Reno - that's the one. As for stats, probably really hard to get that info. Probably need to search some databases under the DHS office and query it based on years vs. who's in office.

    Here you go border data and more here

    And a bunch more here
     
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    This is where I get confused.
    This data shows apprehensions. It doesn't show if the children were separated from their family/group who were with them. I'm not asking if kids were apprehended or deported, I want to see data about them being separated from family/accompanying adults.
     
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    Good conversation from both sides on the issue. This is from the news this am, respectfully.

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    Then you probably need to access their database.
     
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    The cynic in me says it is all a photo op for optics but the optimist thinks it may be real.

    These facilities turn away mayors, governors, and senators but now First Lady Melania is visiting to see what is going on in these center.

    They are not going to turn her away.

    Probably fake but I hope not.

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    Ya I don't know how. Was hoping it was readily available form someone. Hopefully congress can pass a law (I have next to zero faith in them) to put it all to rest.
     
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    She's going to remind the staffers to not bully the kids...
     
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    You probably need to be an employee of that agency and have the proper authorization.
    Didn't Trump recently sign something?
     
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    Executive order to prevent the separations. I don't know the details of that either, nor how temporary it is. I was curious about the situation prior to yesterday vs how Obama handled it. I've heard many conflicting things. Can't even believe the news these days.
     
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    If I break the law, I get taken away from my children too. when was this out if the ordinary. Go to jail lose your ****, kids, house, car impound, probation, jobs ect ect ect some times you lose all of these things and sometimes you skate by and lose less.
     
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    I think the bigger part of the controversy is that these people are "refugees" claiming asylum, rather than sneaking in and being treated as criminals. Yes, the argument to THAT is well, they crossed the border illegally, not through a port, not via their embassy, they're lawbreakers. Law breakers = criminal. The argument to THAT is well, refugees are allowed to cross anywhere as long as they say that magic word. And around we go.
     
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    I'm willing to bet the coyotes tell them if you get caught just say you are refugee.
     
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    Selective responses. Same thing everyone else here gets accused of.
     
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    Kids were being held away from their parents back in the Golden Child's days in office, but no one had a problem with it until Trump came into power. Why is that?:emoji_astonished::emoji_joy:
     
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