Friggin' Dogs - Honest Inquiry

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  1. Yella1

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    Ok, team. I was just reading ANOTHER post about how prolific and aggressive sea lions are here in Southern California and at the islands. It made me think a lot of things, and I'm realizing I need more information.

    For example: are they endangered or protected in some way? Is it possible to cull the population? It has been an issue for long enough that I wonder if anything will ever be done about it. As far as I can tell they don't have any natural predators (no Orca, not many sharks big enough to take them on), so I don't see a solution to their population unless humans intervene.

    I'm positive that you guys know more than me, so I look forward to hearing what you have to say about it.

    Am I wrong to think that this is an issue? Is it not as big a deal as it seems?
     
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    People shouldn't feed them mackerels stuffed with broken glass.
     
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    Protected, yes. Endangered, I highly doubt it. In fact, last year I was on a tuna trip southwest, probably 30-40 miles from any land and no other boats in sight. I was fighting a yellowfin, felt big but it was on a 20# bass setup so who knows. All of a sudden I'm getting spooled, WTF?! Captain said that a dog got me. Waaaay out here? Yep, he said they're so over populated that they have to travel some distances for food.

    I agree there's no real predator. White sharks, but they're not in big numbers. Orcas in our waters are rare. So I'm with you, what to do? I don't think there's really any options unless we start capturing/neutering hahaha.
     
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    I cannot definitely provide sourcing, but my understanding is that thanks to, among others, Sea World, the population is theoretically seen as being too large to support itself naturally at the moment. Humanity is literally ending the process of natural selection and saving dogs that would otherwise be culled by nature itself.
     
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    Confusing and counterintuitive, yet somehow not surprising...:emoji_unamused:
     
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    Gotta save the cute creatures!! Even if it means helping them out-compete the rest of their environment!! All that matters is that they are... cute...?
     
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    Not a bad idea. I'm surprised that isn't a thing already. If I have to do it to MY dog (who is adorable and would never steal my fish), they can do it to sea lions. It's for their own good.
     
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    NOT cute.
     
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    Tell that to the idiots at PETA and all the other animal rescue folks. Sea dogs are a menace in a lot of settings. Willfully enabling them to defy nature is just stupid.

    And no. They are definitely not cute. They are loud, they smell, and they get in the way. The babies? Yeah, okay, maybe. The adults though? No.
     
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    Sea World is trying to regain the reputation that was lost to the Black Fish incident. They want to be seen as the savior of everything that swims and suffers. They rescue starving animals and then return them to the same waters in which they could find no food. Putting the animals down would be more humane, but that would not sell tickets.
     
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    Hey, attendance is ticking up over the last year or so. Clearly whatever they are doing is certainly working in their favor.
     
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    deterring_qa.html This might shed a little light on the subject . there is also new legislation in the works for some commercial harvest in Canada and the pacific northwest . Maybe some in our area in the future ? I can remember the crews of fishing boats killing them outright before 1972 . The statistics show that the california sea lion population has gone from 30,000 in the late 1960s to around 300,000 currently in US waters . I agree can sure be pests . Tight lines
     
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    Sardines and sculpin spines. Get creative , it works .
     
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    Stuff a dine with wasabi.
     
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    Sea World would just rescue them.
    They should "fix" everyone that they return to the ocean.
     
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    SeaWorld is required by law to assist with all sea life as part of their agreement with the government to exists.
     
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    They're required to by law...but I would say that this is a good idea, kind of like stray dogs.
     
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    A couple years ago they had a decent die off due to starvation because there were too many around...unfortunately we had to save them.
     
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    I can't tell you the number of times on a local trip after being surrounded by dogs on a hot bite we have no choice but to move off because you can't keep a bait in the water because all you have is the head on the hook.:emoji_rage:
     
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    I hear the same thing is happening to the Asian Carp population in the Mississippi river. They just don't have anything left to eat. Poor carp, somebody should really do something to help them, and they should rehabilitate any injured ones... (cut to me getting smacked in the face by a flying carp). :emoji_rage:
     
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