I need some input on my next rod & reel

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  1. Nick Arevalo

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    Hello everyone, so I'm hoping to pick up a new rod and reel in the next few weeks, and I have a couple questions.

    Let's start with the rods. I'm currently deciding if I want to get a phenix abyss 1009 (25-60lb) or a calstar west coast 90j (30-50lb). I currently have an abyss 907 and I love it for my halibut fishing, but I don't know if I should try a different brand. Also which will have more backbone, the phenix or the calstar?

    Next, reels. I know I'm gonna go with a penn fathom, but I don't know if I should get a 25n or a 30. Would a 30 be overkill for San Diego waters?

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    Say more about what you intend to do with it: halibut fishing, live bait for tuna and yellowtail, lure casting, bottom fishing or surface fishing, what species and size fish, and so on.
     
  3. Nick Arevalo

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    I mainly want it for batrays/leopards but before everyone tells me to get something cheap because they're just batrays, listen. I don't like dealing with cheap companies that don't make a good product, I'd rather have something a little more high end in case something does break, and that they're customer service will be there for me. Also I want to start throwing irons this summer for yellowtail.
     
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    Based on what you're saying I'd recommend the 90j.......glass not composite or graphite.
     
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    I have had great experiences with calstar. Can’t speak to Phoenix.
     
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    Calstar or seeker 6-7 ft 20-50 or 30-60. Dedicated jigsticks are another animal altogether. Graphite/composite rods are super stiff and have their applications, but sounds like you already know a bit about that with your Phoenix. The 30 size will be perfect to cover you upto larger grade tuna, may be kinda bulky for inshore halibut/rockfish. I have a calstar 100j that murders yellowtail yet I sometimes fish it for sandbass or other bottom dwellers just for fun. The setup with either a torium 16/20 or my avet hx is pretty heavy and fishing it all day gets tiring pretty quick. The bend on glass vs the newer materials is something you should check into. If you like your Phoenix and the way it fishes, look into Californian Tri Helix at turners. They are Phoenix blanks and I caught my 180 pound bluefin on a 7 foot 30-80 pound stick. Tight lines
     
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    The Abyss 1009 is not... what I would call the ideal jig stick. It’s super stiff, doesn’t like to load up. The 90J on the other hand... loads up and you can pull on it... hard. It’s a much more forgiving and parabolic rod.

    Abyss series of rods tend to have poor quality control as well. The 1008 is a better rod. Personally I’d look at the Axis series of rods. The 909H and 909XHJ are two rods I use often.
     
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    Awesome! I'll have to go check the Tri Helix out soon! Looked at pictures of them and they look very nice.
     
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    Alright thanks for the advice! I'll probably go with a calstar, but I'm gonna check out the Californian Tri-helix that Redjim mentioned(probably the 909h) once Turners stops their curbside pickup or whatever they are doing.
     
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    That’s an Axis 909H. The Californian series are rebranded Phenix with components a bit cheaper.
     
  11. Nick Arevalo

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    Nice, for $200 it seems like a pretty good deal. Are the Axis series good at casting, and pulling on fish?
     
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    They are pretty soft rods for being composite rods. They have the backbone to pull hard and the action to load up. The 909XHJ is a good 40lb rod that has the backbone to lift into fish really well. Issue is that you need a Tady 45 or JRI7 or heavier to load up the rod. Anything lighter it doesn’t want to budge. I personally like it as a colt sniper rod.
     
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    Alright, that's good to know. Kind of glad it takes a larger bait to make it load because I'll probably be fishing larger baits 4oz+.
     
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    Nick, I was at the San Marcos store yesterday morning and I walked right in. The clerk looks at me and says , excuse me ! Do you have an appointment? I said noooo... they then did a head count, and let me in, escorting me to the reel section with my very own sales person lol.. anyway, they’re only letting in 10 people at a time and there was a line at the door as I left. Saleswoman says they’ve been bombarded with new gun sales and have sold 300 guns to newbies in the last week.
     
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