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Imperial Valley carp.. Help?

Discussion in 'Fly fishing' started by Werfless, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Werfless

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    Ok people.. Was out in the imperial valley. Saw thousands of carp everywhere feeding on insects on the surface. Loads of a tan insect, body with dark stripes. About size 12? Lots of moths with purple black wings too.. And saw a caddis in my back window too.. What kind of bugs are like mosquitoes, but lighter with banded bodies? Been looking at pix online, but can't seem to find the one I am looking for.. Help?
     
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    Damn dude, sounds like that could be an epic fly fishing scene. Maybe stop by one of the local fly shops to "match the hatch". Strouds on Morena Blvd in Bay Park or the Fly Stop in Mira Mar might have something similar. Some good high floating flies that sound similar to what you are describing might include yellow or white humpty's, parachute adams, parachute blue winged olives, or a tan elk hair caddis. You may need a 8 to 10lb leader to muscle in one of these beasts which can make it tougher if they are line shy.
     
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    The bugs that look like mosquitos are probably some type of chironomid, also commonly referred to as a midge (because most species are small). They come in all sorts of colors and sizes and are a significant part of them acquatic biomass. Fish feeding on them will often become very selective and ignore other foods. You would be seeing the newly hatched adults on the waters surface or flying above.

    One of the best flies for imitating these is the Griffith's Gnat, which looks nothing like a gnat or an adult midge but often works really well.
     
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    Looking at photos, midge seems about right. If I were a fly fisher, I would head out there and lay the beat down.. Size 12 or 14.. Just saying
     
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    Pick up a few lookalikes, grease them up with floatant and fish them about four feet below a cast-a-bubble. Catch a few that way and it won't belong before you will be waving a long rod from the banks of those canals.
     
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    You already have the Tenkara rod. Buy some backing, or knowing you, make your own. You are welcome to borrow some of my modest fly tying gear if you want to try and make your own flies.
     
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    Lol.. Was just curious what all those flying insects were that I saw out there awhile back. Thought a flyfishing guy would be able to make good on the intel for sure.. I personally only enjoy one aspect of carp fishing for the most part.. Last time I was out there, some huge clouds of a brownish moth looking thing were heavy on the water in places.. Lol
     
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    While on the topic...how are the mosquitos biting at this time of year with temps in the 100s?
     
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    Saw lots at the river, only a few in the IV when I was there..
     
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    Always assume they will be there and be prepared. Skeeters don't bug as much as the legion of other bugs attracted to my headlamp

    Jim
     
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    Yup. I can't come home empty with bug bites.
    Supposed to cool down this weekend. You gonna make it?


     
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    Hoping to but many factors can nix it.

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