Iron Modifying.. come out of the woodwork

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  1. Fat Spottie

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    Aight so I have these two Tady 1/0s single hooks that feel ******** amazing. Good edges, right shape... but they’re duds. So, what can I do to fix them. One of them there is no fixing... it’s about as good as I imagine it could be, wider hips but no fixing that. The second one has even sharper edges and better hips but the eye is tiny af and centered.

    So here’s my question... if opening up the eye would help... would it help more if the eye was more on the bigger side of the hip or smaller side? Would it react more to the amount of space it had to move or???? Does the eye have to be towards a maximum size? Just some thoughts. I’ll post some pictures in a bit.
     
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    Guess I’ll suffer in silence eh?
     
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    Bro, if I knew the answer I would surely tell you. Since nobody's chiming in (I'm surprised about that), I would just start trying stuff. Definitely start with opening that small eye to one side (either side). I mean, if it already swims bad, the worst that can happen is that it continues to swim bad. The situation can only be improved with your efforts.

    Are there any youtube videos on the topic??
     
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    This is the rod building forum, Probably a better question for the lure making group

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    Misery loves company.... so how you guys doing?
     
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    Oh... didn’t realize that
     
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    usually offsetting the eye enhances action..bit do it slowly as they will break
     
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    When I have a dud I always start by looking at the line tie ring. If it is centered I oblong it to the side opposite the side with the "least" amount of kick. Keep in mind I am by no means an expert. When you have a dud you have nothing to loose so start making some changes.

    I look for jigs with offset hips and offset line/hook holes. These allway seem to swim the best. Lay your top jig next to your dud and start working it to mimic the performer.
     
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    Reaming out the holes (a little offset)is the quickest way to get more action, but then you have to remove and re-braze the ring if you want to smooth out that hole with a countersinking bit. Its just another level of tooling commitment. It seams if you got good at it you could make a few bucks as most people have a lot of duds that they may pay to have fixed.
     
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    Funny, I was just watching this video yesterday that talks about this subject in detail. Check it out
     
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    When did this thing come back to life.

    Interestingly enough, I still have the jig and now have some circular ******* files as we. I’ll get to work and let y’all know how it goes.

    rza007 My favorite jig is a center hole like that.
     
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    If you are going to remove and rebraze the ring . Filling the eye with marine tex epoxy and re drilling to the location you want may fix it . The stuff is amazing and can be drilled and tapped if needed And will stick to about anything especially metals . You could also build up the hips with the same and reshape , just saying . Good luck ,WR Sorry for not paying attention to the dates , oh well good info anyway
     
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    The video was cool but you want to cut the ring, and use these after you move the hole over a little if you want to get it done quicker and keep the smooth edge. I reworked some a while back and tried to work around the ring but it didn't work. These are only for use after you have drilled them out to the desired new diameter hole. The ring isn't to hard to repair either with some map gas needle nose vise grips, and solder from what I remember. Countersink bits.jpg
     
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    You guys are making me feel like a cavemen. I normally sticks flat head in and go to town.
     
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    Or try wiring the jig to see if that helps...and you don't ruin a rare & endangered jig. I cringe at the thought of grinding or boring on an old 1/0. I'll give a new jig rather than see that happen.
     
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