Legal poaching at San V

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  1. bluegillman

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    Seeing a bunch of guys taking limits (and more) out. Obviously everyone can do what is legal but apparently there are several guys that come and take limits (and more) daily which raises the suspicion that they are may be selling them elsewhere (as I understand it, not legal).

    There are certainly subjective upsides to culling. What worries me is, at these rates, what effects these legal poachers are having on those of us sport fishermen?

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    I doubt its true. I'm sure some people have taken some home but it will never be enough to make any noticeable difference.

    And I think "legal poaching" would be an oxymoron.
     
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    Just goin off your name are we talking bluegill or bass?
     
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    Seen many guys taking Bass home, not a problem with it. Help keep the lake more stable. I know that this is always a sore subject, but culling never hurts. El Cap is the perfect example of that. To many fish that are 12-16 inches.
     
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    It's not poaching is harvesting, and it is good for the ecology of the lake. Trust me they aren't going to catch every bass in existence. As a kid we used to keep limits of bass from castaic lake on a bi weekly basis and go home and have a fish fry....didn't seem to hurt that lake one little bit haha!
     
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    I believe the LMB population estimate is around 25000 LMB larger than 12 inches and is top heavy with 3-5 lb LMB. Thinning the herd is absolutely the right thing to do at this moment. The cool thing with LMB is they will always make more next spring.
     
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    The "legal" part would be that they are taking limits from a fishery that allows it. Selling sport-caught fish is the illegal part

    Sorry I wasn't clear, I am talking about bass ;-)

    I do understand the school of thought that prefers "thinning the herd" will yield larger fish. That being said, there are many (myself included) who prefer catching high quantities of 3-5lb LMB than than small quantities of larger fish.
     
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    It has been my experience and my observation that 3-5lb bass ARE larger fish. Even now many of the three to five pound bass at San V are actually smaller than that if actually weighed. IMO
     
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    They ARE big fish, at least for me :)

    I fished last Thursday evening, Sunday most of the day, and this evening - 35 bass total - the majority of them weighed. Only a few clocked in under 3lbs (and those were high 2s). Biggest one was just under 6lbs. The bulk were high 3s to low 4s. ALL of them were great fun and given proper releases :)

    Me personally - I wouldn't trade my 35 "small" catches for one or two "monsters". I realize this is straight blasphemy in the size-fixated fishing world but hey... consider me a man that is more than comfortable with his "size" as it were ;-)

    I hope our new and improved fishery stays active, aggressive and healthy for a LONG time.
     
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    BLUEGILL LIVES MATTER!!
     
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    On a PLATTER!
     
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    If you have some proof they are selling them then call the DFW and report them. Keeping limits every trip does not mean they are selling them. Maybe they like to eat bass.
     
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    It was a City employee and Rocky Mountain employees who mentioned it to me. They are apparently already in contact with (or planning to contact) DFW.
     
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    Need some harvest to level the lake out.. let me know when the fishing there rivals the IV.. need more take there too though of course..

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    This isnt poaching or illegal by any many but was very surprised to witness this..
    Saw an actual bass boat guy at the ramp just this last saturday, weigh a fish that went almost 8 lbs..
    Put his boat on the trailer at the ramp & out came the fish for pics & weight, back into the boat it went as far as I can tell.
    I personally would never keep a bass at 8 lbs....
    Im no angel as a few calicos have come across my dinner table on occasion but just legal size & nothing substancial....
    bass lives matter!:D
     
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    It's perfectly legal to keep. Only way to respectfully discourage keeping lunkers is to advocate for a slot limit. Otherwise people who pay their hard earned money to fish at our lakes deserve the right to keep the fish that they legally catch and retain if they choose. As many have said, limited harvest will result in a much healthier bass fishery.

    @Slater i agree with you, I wouldn't keep an 8lb LMB either. To each their own.
     
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