Lower 9 depth and weights?

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  1. Ggiannig89

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    Thinking I’m going to try hitting the 9 looking for bigger reds and lings. what are the general depths at the nine and what are the average weight you need to get down to the bottom?
    Thanks for the advice.
    Won’t be using live bait
     
    #1 Ggiannig89, Dec 4, 2020
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    If you’re fishing lings, I’d fish live mackerel on a dropper loop or 3way
     
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    That would be ideal but I don’t use or have a bait tank. I was thinking of trying to catch a few small rockfish and drop them back down.
     
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    I’d have to look at the regs but pretty sure you can’t do that
     
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    My understanding is that you can use rockfish as bait but they are counted as your daily bag limit.
     
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    That sounds off...no way to tell what your bag limit is if they are used as bait. That definitely sounds false. Gonna look
     
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    I am not sure they care if you are in Mexican waters
     
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    Well first off, the lower 9 is in Mexico. At least the vast majority of it. The area of the 9 open in US waters is only about a quarter mile of area or so, maybe a third.

    The second thing is that a variety of weights is better then thinking of one. Sometimes you have tons of conditions... wind, current, that will rapidly push you off fish you’re metering. The best approach is to have multiple weights and find which one keeps you in contact with the bottom the easiest. I typically fish maybe 2oz per 100ft if there is absolutely no current or wind pushing me around. If there is, maybe 3oz per 100ft. If it’s shyt balls, 4oz per 100ft.

    Another approach is big jigs and swimbaits on dropper loops. Like long skinny jigs, megabaits, coltsnipers, dagger jigs... or long curly tail grubs and swimbaits. Long shank hooks keep your bait pinned on better. 30lb is a great place to start so fish aren’t tearing apart your rigs.

    Do remember, there are a lot of times when reds are actually suspended at the top of plumes.
     
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    Another thing, you don’t have to go that deep for quality lings. As far as numbers go...sorry
    Not south of the border. 160-200’
     
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    not just targeting lings. But if I had better “spots” in shallower that would be amazing.
    9 is in my eyes a proven starting spot to learn about big bottom dwellers.
     
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    Eh.. really, one of the best baits for lings is sand dabs,IMO. No limit and tasty...
     
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    8in sand dab on a 4/0. Have the tag end of the loop just high enough to float the sand dab in the drift or current
     
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    But where do I find the dabs before the wind comes up and I can’t get a good drift?
     
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    Sand dabs are everywhere out there. You drift off the spot a few feet and they will be there, rock sole too probably (ten limit on rock sole, yum). Or just head onto the mud and make a drop or two with a five hook sabiki in 1/0
     
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    Toss a feathers sabiki down for dabs, cast it out away from the structure you are fishing. Bring up dabs and drop them down.
     
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