Obama's Silent Coup

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  1. Urklehaze

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    He looked at your profile pic dude. Lol. If you look at mine, you can tell im a little girl.
     
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    He's not exactly Nostradamus, your avatar shows a Teenager! :facepalm:
    Notice the double negative, meaning she leaked something to somebody!
     
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    If you don't have argument, belittle your opponent. Old trick.
     
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    "However that is what we have." No, that is not all that we have. In fact, it's neither the latest, nor the most comprehensive model we have. It's just the most convenient model for climate change deniers.

    "The most fitting theory that actually matches data is the sun caused the climate to increase the temps causing the ice caps to melt covering plant life with water, therefore increasing CO2 levels." It is not the most fitting theory, because, again, it's neither the latest, nor the most comprehensive model we have.

    I posted a link to a very recent and very comprehensive study which incorporates the Vostok model into other available models to give a more global reconstruction, rather than one isolated to the region where the Vostok cores were sampled. That study was published and peer reviewed. Let the scientists be the scientists. Don't go into researching this matter on the premise that there's a GLOBAL coordinated effort in the scientific community to deceive everyone. If you can't accept peer reviewed studies anymore, than we might as well start believing that there's a link between vaccines and paranoia...sorry, Autism.
     
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    So, was the tomahawk missile strike an effective response? What are the risks involved in removing Assad from power? For you history geeks out there, check out this image comparison I do with my students between Assad and Hobbes, Leviathan. The similarities are really interesting.
    upload_2017-4-7_8-12-6.png syria-bashar-people-and-army-2013-01-18.jpg
     
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    It's not like the entire scientific community never believed the earth was flat or the sun revolved around the earth. How come between 1996 and 2014 temps didn't rise however CO2 did? What happened to the CO2 that was released in mass during the extream volcanic periods. More CO2 was dumped into the atmosphere at a far faster rate then now. Are you aware that plant life consumes CO2. The models have been doctored and people have been caught manipulating data to come up with desire results. When your computer models come up with an accurate prediction then maybe I can jump on board. Right now it is nothing but SciFi with a cult like following, that comes up with an excuse everytime a prediction does not come true. Again you believe that .23% of 3.2% of 2% of the atmosphere is causing the climate to change but it can't be the sun. The earth's heat source.
     
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    The data used in the study you linked still shows an initial temp increase before CO2 rises.
     
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    Not to compare Carterantebi to Alexander The Great, but at about 18 he won his frist battle and never lost one after that until his death at 32. He was considered a military genius.
    My point being, age has nothing to do with anything.
     
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    Not meant to belittle, but go ahead and jump to conclusions. I think he writes quite well for his age. I do not think he took it as an insult either, if so It was not my meaning. I think it is interesting that at a young age he has an interest in political dialogue. What would also be interesting to know is if his parents are ardent Obama haters and his opinions stem from his upbringing or he has developed his own set of standards.

    I can tell you one thing personally about being 16 which may ring true for many other people. At 16 I thought I knew everything. At 30 I realized how unwise I was at 16 and that I do not know jack. To this day I still operate under the premise that I do not know what it is like to walk in anther mans shoes. I try to use common sense to navigate life but keep in mind that I at any point may be completely wrong. I try my best to always treat others with respect and do good by my neighbor and when I can, serve others.

    I have plenty of arguments, go read my posts. I can even be swayed when presented with actual factual arguments.

    Here is an argument for you. How do justify blindly following Trump. Are you afraid to say he may not be perfect or you under the assumption that many have that Trump was sent to lead our nation by God?

    Are the many contradictions that come out of his mouth just God working in mysterious ways?

    When I evaluate how Trump has acted and considered the things he says I find him to be so out of tune with Christian values that it truly amazes me that you condone his behavior.

    He literally says one thing one day and a completely different thing the next day. Does this not bother you in any way?

    What is your take on revenge, as a Christian. You do realize that revenge is one of Trumps core values. This is not hearsay he has spoken often on his philosophy of getting even and screwing the other guy 15 times harder.

    There are so many examples of what I would consider bad behavior and un-Christ like values that it gives me pause in that I can not ascribe to blindly following him as many others do?

    If I could see any actual proof that he can think before he speaks, and what he says is not meant to bolster his ego or feed his appetite for self adulation then my opinion could absolutely change. I have never seen a shred of evidence that he has the ability to be humble or admit that he is wrong about any decision he has ever made.

    As you can surmise I do not have a favorable opinion about Trump. I can tell you that if it comes out that Obama is behind some massive conspiracy to ruin our nation and he has committed criminal acts, (real ones that can be proven) I will not martyr him.

    Can you say the same for your guy?

    Maybe it as all irrelevant as we possibly head into WW3. If that is the case get out and fish as much as you can before the the day of reckoning comes down on us.

    Tight Lines
     
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    I don't have a guy. There was not one candidate that fully represented my world view. Did I breath a sigh of relief when Trump was elected? Oh yeah! Do I think there is a calculated conspiracy to undermine Trump's presidency? Oh yeah! Will it ever all come out? Nope! This stuff has been going on for a long time!

    My confidence is not in man; not one man, not mankind. Proverbs 3:5-6 (in the Bible)
     
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    So, your "evidence" as to why an increase in co2 does NOT cause an increase in temperature is because at some time in the past when co2 was 3 times higher there was NOT an increase in temperature due to less solar activity?
    That's like claiming that leaving a pet in a car wont kill your pet because one time your cat spent the night in the car and was just fine in the morning.
    Ya, no duh, it was night time.
     
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    Ok. So your saying it's the sun. A recent increase in solar activity has caused a recent warm up and is also causing co2 to go up?
    Right?
     
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    Alright, someone gave this thread CPR and broke out the defibrillator to give it life again.
     
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    CLEAR!!

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    Just pull the plug please.
     
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    "Again you believe that .23% of 3.2% of 2% of the atmosphere is causing the climate to change but it can't be the sun. The earth's heat source."
    So let's do a process of elimination, like when my car wont start and I check first to see if I'm out of gas.
    It could be the sun!
    So, let's check for any increase in solar activity. There hasn't been any?
    Then that's not it.
    What else might cause an increase in temps? How about an increase in something that holds heat in? Water vapor?
    Nope.
    Oxygen?
    Nope.
    Nitrogen?
    Uh uh.
    Co2??

    Could something that's such a small fraction of the earth's atmosphere make that much difference?
    The human body is about 65% water. Sodium only makes up 0.2 percent of what we are composed of and magnesium 0.1 percent.
    Go ahead, I dare you, jack with your electrolytes. I want to know if something that little of can cause any significant changes.
     
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    OK, here's my opinion on this subject.
    The rise of CO2 is do to over population, over 7 billion people exhaling CO2.
    The food and drink we we take in can be broken into carbon compounds, one of the most simple glucose (C6H1206). When that reacts with oxygen (O2) in cells, it produces carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O).
    C6H1206 plus 6O2 gives 6CO2 plus 6H2O plus energy. We use the energy and the carbon dioxide is breathed out.
    IMHO
     
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    So I started reading this on this page, page 16. I think I get the gist of what the first 15 pages were like. Looks like you are all having fun... onward.

    Oh, He is risen! ;/)
     
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    This graph can be made by students in middle school.
    Find out what is the main producer of Co2 emissions. ( Actually looks up the data, not search for "bias that shows climate change from Co2 is made by ect. " or "bias that shows climate change from is not from Co2 and is fabricated" )
    Do the math on the data trend of temperature vs Co2 and what is the main cause of Co2 output.
    This graph has been confirmed by all Permanent Seats in the UN (US, UK, FR, RU, CN) along with almost all UN countries have confirmed this from multiple scientists in those countries.
     
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    ... said the person who obviously has never met more than one family, along with a member of their own, whose child was perfectly normal for years before certain vaccinations, only to basically become a vegetable afterwards. Talk about leaving things to those with actual experience...
     
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