State of the Union

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  1. fisheromen

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    Wow, great speech! Favorite part was when he said that aid dollars will only be going to friends of America!

    I was concerned, however, that he said he was going to put an end to "catch and release". ;)
     
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    Got rid of the Obamacare tax plan. Nobody should be force to buy medical insurance.
     
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    Actually he only got rid of the penalty for not buying insurance. Dems and a few repubs blocked repeal and replace.
     
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    That was a start of getting rid of Obamacare. He cut off the subsidy for it. Don't have that part on the 1041 forms anymore.
     
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    That's gotta be one of the best speeches we've heard from him in a while. He stayed very professional throughout the address and the whole speech gave a strong impression of unity. A+

    I was slightly bummed about the whole part on the dangers of catch and release as well. Seems he's been talking to werfless too much.
     
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    True, but by the same token, nobody should be forced to pay the medical expenses of someone who decided not to buy insurance. That's exactly what happens when he plows his motorcycle into the back of a semi in the right lane and winds up in intensive care. The law says he can't be denied care just because he doesn't have insurance. The cost of that care is passed along to all of the rest of us. Same goes for those who use the emergency room for minor ailments because they don't have any other coverage, and they can't be turned away either.

    It's a complicated issue.

    Edit: The relatively cheap major medical and catastrophic plans no longer met the mandatory requirements under Obama Care. Healthy young people were penalized by having to subsidize older people who couldn't be charged more just because of age or denied coverage for all the preexisting conditions one picks up over a lifetime.
     
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    I was entertained when the camera showed the audience, you could clearly see where the Dems and Reps sat - the Reps stood and applauded while the Dems all sat.

    I didn't hear the whole story of the North Korean that defected. Did hear that he stole coal to sell for food, missed the rest until I saw him standing with his crutches up.
     
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    Someone said that the Democrats looked like the Easter Island statues.
     
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    Pretty sure they are briefed on his speech. Also I payed attention to his clapping, it was for things outside or beside his sphere of control. In other words he was applauding with his audience for something or someone else.

    People tend to see and hear what they want to.
     
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    SOTU speeches are by their very nature politically self-serving. Always have been, always will be. Are the astounding economic numbers the residual effect of the policies of the previous administration? Really? Large corporations are good at reading which policies are good for their bottom line. They can and do move quickly to take advantage.
     
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    I stopped listening after he said “We have ended the war in clean beautiful coal.”

    He has done nothing to actually restart the mines in the Apallachions.. those mines won’t restart either.

    For starters, most of the mining has been moved to Wyoming. Coal can be extracted more efficiently, it releases more energy when burned, and it burns cleaner.
    Also there are way bigger deposits, it’s simple capitalism; what costs less money to manufacture and produce.

    In the Apallachians it costs way more to extract at this point.. also theirs something about the geology of the area where better equipment is harder to install, therefore companies would have to hire people costing more money... so the Wyoming mines it is.

    I also found it funny that Trump mentioned a cleanliness factor... even though he said like there never has been one before... almost like he’s trying to refute the evidence for some of the nastiest burning coal that could be mined...
     
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    There was a side bar on the screen, you could see the next topics - just like the sports channels. I heard on the radio there were a number of people involved in the writing of the speech.
     
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    They are riding, same way he’s riding the same strategy used against ISIS by Obama... I think someone who’s being hired by Northrop Grumman for an internship based on strategical analysis of current US equipment would know a thing or to about that.
     
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    Everyone needs editors on screen writers at this point... I know my school principal sure as hell does lol
     
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    I thought it was pretty funny that he clapped into the mic at a few points but I'm not going to nitpick him about it and act as if that was just his entire speech. The fact that someone can ignore the entire address and care that much about proper clapping technique is beyond me.
     
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    If he didn't clap, then it would appear as if he is standing there while everyone is clapping at/for him. No matter what he does, there will be something wrong about it.
     
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    Okay honestly, clapping into the mic happens pretty often...
     
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    If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. LOL
     
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    I said it once and I'll say it again...

    WHY DO YOU CARE?!?

    Was the rest of the SOTUA not important or something?
     
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    That's all they have. I mean come on, they stand behind Fancy Nancy, who shakes so bad if she doesn't put down her morning tumbler of bourbon. Then insult Trump for clapping.
    The economy is on high gear and business are coming back and investing in the United States. Not because of Obama who told them flat out they didn't earn what they have and owe there success to the government. The reason the stock market went through the roof the day after Trump won was because they knew the socialists were out of the Whitehouse.
     
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