Trump caves!

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  1. Creek

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    I didnt either when I first saw it.. but its everywhere and its now something I cant get out of my mind.. like hearing a song in your head over and over at night while youre trying/dying to get some sleep.
     
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    Some folks (a little more hardcore than me) are calling her Occasional Kotex. Im not a fan of that one, but the other one kinda rocks - particularly anytime she says something insanely dumb - which is more or less a daily thing with her.
     
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    I aim to please.
     
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    Benefit of the doubt, right there!
     
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    I have a question that maybe one or more of you can answer honestly.. I really dont know the answer myself.

    Why was "the wall" funding approved and okay several years ago but not now. Is it because the wall is what got Trump elected? I mean, the wall had a green light when Obama was in office. Why is there no green light for Trump? What happened to cause all of those Dem folks that voted for the wall with Obama to now decline the wall with Trump? Serious thoughts only, please.
     
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    Since we're airing out the laundry, here's another one I dont quite get..

    Rashida Tlaib. Immediately following her congressional win she was videoed wrapped-up in a flag of what country I dont even know - but definitely not the US flag. She could then be heard doing something called tongue-trilling with her friends while wrapped in said flag. Not long after, she publicly called the Pres a MF'er, then followed that with "He's not my President" while sitting in a congressional chair. Soooo.. where exactly did our society go south so fast. and why have we allowed it to continue?
     
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    I’m fuzzy on the details and honestly too lazy to research.

    My recollection was that the budgeting was in tune with additional agent hiring, improvement to existing barriers and implementation of technological measures; e.g. thermal sensors and optics as well as pressure sensors in buffer zones.

    Trump has been wanting to build a wall extending the remainining perimeter of the US without a strategy for the Rio Grande and reclaiming the privately owned land encompassing both countries. I have no idea how he plans to take the Reservation Land along the border.

    Trump has been a sideshow long before he jumped into politics, let’s be honest. I mean seriously - HTF do you bankrupt a freaking casino...
     
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    landman10 ....just curious what you disagree on regard post #17
    I stated true facts that Trump at his rallies told the crowds that Mexico will pay for the wall. There is no fake news there.
    I actually tuned in to Fox News and other networks that covered his rallies and the words came right out of his mouth. Did you not read about it or not see him on TV saying Mexico is going to pay for the wall? He did it several times. I did not make it up. So you disagree that he said those words....or just don't like me bringing it up? Or maybe I should not have mentioned about there were a lot of naive people that believed it? It did sound too good to be true. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with me or anyone out there....but what about?
     
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    Well how much are you worth? Don't knock a guy's business decisions when he can roll a joint with more money then you will ever see in your life.
     
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    Damn, people need to chill the **** out, just had lunch with an old friend, ive known this guy for twenty plus years... since high school, he pushed the subject of politics...i said three words "i support trump" and it was game on triggered liberal rage scorched earth. I said "lets agree to disagree" and he looked at me with a look of disgust like he just stepped in dog **** and i was the dog **** then proceeded to comment on my family like my wife made me this way. Of course this friendship is over as he started talking **** about my family. My point being is people chill, we are just ordinary working class people being fed biased information by a biased media and being lied to by biased politicians. Our only power is at the ballot box. Stop picking your side so hard like your ready for war. Lets agree to disagree and stay friends.
     
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    If dems cared about the federal workers so much then why wouldn't they just give Trump the wall. It is one fraction on a percent of the budget. 6 billion for a wall and to end the shut down is pennies compared to the 150 billion Obama gave Iran. What did we get out of that? I mean 6 billion to get the government employees back to work. Plus we would have a more secure border.
     
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    Needless wall? Then can I assume you don't have a front door. I get it more people are victimized by domestic violence then home invasions so surely you don't need a front door.
     
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    It's a good question and has made me think and I hopefully can some my point of view in a way that makes sense and isn't too wordy or snarky:

    I don't really care about the wall personally, one way or another. I doesn't seem reasonable or a good use of resources but I could be wrong. I don't think the measly 5.Xbillion was that much to money to ask for ( even despite the whole "making Mexico pay for it thing) I think it does point to his lack of leadership since it's such a relatively small sum and he wasn't able to make it happen but that's another issue.

    The real issue I have is that I don't trust him or respect him because of the specific quality and quantity of the blatant lies he makes. Also the gloating a arrogance. People generally don't root for or like people that are dishonest or boasting/arrogant and he is both (I don't even see how anyone could argue that. These are features of his personality more than quirks)

    All politicians lie to one degree or another but the type of lying Trump does is of a different quality. The most concerning are the lies about things that are easily and instantly disputed with simple facts. Lies like:

    -"We had one of the biggest electoral college wins they've ever seen" Not even close
    -"We're the highest taxed nation in the world" we're not
    -"you just got one of the biggest pay raises you’ve ever received" speaking to a military crowd stating it was 10 percent and the first in 10 years. It was more like 3 percent and they got a raise every year for a long time before that. The biggest under Obama
    -"The tax bill wouldn't have a positive effect on me" it does
    -"Obama was born in Kenya and I have proof"
    -" I have proof Obama has wiretapped me"

    The list goes on and on. And I purposely left out lies that could be used for specifically political/negotiation purposes(except maybe the "highest taxed nation" one but he says it so much I had to put it in), which all politicians do. These are lies to the American peoples face that all but the most reactionary, partisan and blindspotted can see and fact check instantly. These are the most disturbing to me. I would never trust anyone in real life that lied to me like that so I don't trust him or anything he does.

    Anyway I don't really have a problem with trump supporters, per se. I do marvel at their trust and faith in such a phenomenally dishonest person, but to each there own. I do happen to support the 2nd amendment, am anti-political correctness, don't think the government should be involved in marriage, gay or straight and do think there's at least some discussion to be had about abortion laws.

    Fug that was long. Anyway I'm way overdue for a big fish and hope to catch one tomorrow and hope yall the same luck!
     
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    I don't like trump but that old "friend" is a real POS to me! People do need to chill out, I agree
     
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    Perhaps you should roll yourself a joint and lighten up Francis...

    So you would prefer to give the man without a plan, a check for 5.7B given his bankruptcy history?

    Hell no, it’s precisely because of his business past and dealings that I would demand detailed plans from his administration. His best and brightest has had 2 years to develop them. But at the rate they’ve been dropping and being jettisoned, we’re now talking third string JV players eh?

    Effectively the Wall d’ Trump is costing US taxpayers at least 11.7B dollars - not Pesos as promised. Given his penchant for effective and constructive solutions, this will escalate exponentially come Valentine’s Day as he will seemingly not structure a plan together to segment the project and collaborate solution objectives.

    Either way, the drugs will still roll through the ports of entry - just ask El Chapo...

    BTW - Obama didn’t give Iran 150B, that was Iran’s money which was being held in international institutions. That notion is as incorrect as stating that Mexico is paying for the wall from tarrifs or from NAFTA 2.0

    If you must know, I am quite comfortable and I don’t need the drugs - I appreciate your concern, really tho...
     
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    For the most part I try to relate fishing in some way to all of my posts, even in the lounge. It does not always work out but I try to make the attempt.

    Has any fished Falcon International Reservoir south of Laredo Texas? Check it out if you have not heard of it. Lots of info, pics and video out there. Its a very large lake right on the border. Lots O good old boys making a living off that there lake yes sir I guarantee it.

    Where is that there dern wall going to go? I don't reckon you are going to pull of building it on Mexican soil. Building a wall down the middle of the lake seems problematic. I hope we don't give the lake to Mexico. Although, I could see on trade'n it for the Coronado Islands.

    Lots of situations like that along the border.

    What this dude said,

    It boils down to this. Trump got clowned by Ann and Rush. Trump tried to clown all of us and shut down the gubment. The majority didn't think the clown show was funny so he lost. Remember The Bozo Show and some lucky kid got picked to toss the ping pong ball in a series of 10 buckets, The whole thing reminds me of the kid who could not drop the ball in bucket # 1.

    He said he would be proud to own it, so here you go.

    We can not even figure out tunnels, way bigger issue in my opinion. I do think walls and barriers, which we have and are good deterrents and should be considered and implemented in strategic areas. Strategic is the main idea here. Trump sales it like the great wall of China, literally. The drugs we consume are not pouring over on the backs of people, its coming through the ports of entry. Most people who are here illegally came on a plane. A lot of the ones who run across the border are working for people like Trump....Literally working for Trump -Google it.

    Trump offered temporary Daca....I think he did that before in good faith and then reneged.

    I love this one, its great, a real knee slapper There are no real crimes committed all the people who have been indicted, granted immunity or are in prison who are associated with Trump. Its a hoax and all unfair made up "Process crimes" and don't mean anything. ---- Maybe it does not mean anything but I will put my money on why do so many of you need to lie about the "Process" if there is nothing there?

    If your daddy gave you a 100 billion dollars and you managed to lose half of it in a lifetime would you be considered a rich genius cause you told people you were? You would still be rich that's for sure.

    Here is a link to Falcon lake reports. The guy reporting is classic. He is a true Texan and Maga guy. I think he is great and would fit right in around these parts. Maybe I will send him an invite. When you read his reports and political commentary you can hear the accent dripping off the words.

    Falcon Lake Tackle - Fishing Tackle, Marine Supplies, and the ULTIMATE Falcon Lake Resource

    Here is an excerpt of one of hos political rants...good stuff.

    Like you I have been hearing a lot about the government ****down.. And I am sorry if it is affecting you.. Hope you get back to work soon..


    But the ridiculousness of the whole deal is laughable.. Am I in favor of the wall.. From El Paso to the west coast, hell yeah.. Along the Rio Grande we need it in places.. The rest we can do electronically.. As long as we have people to react to areas of need..


    And all these people who are entering the country illegally.. And those allowing and supporting the idea.. What the **** is wrong with you?


    I heard the other day something about those poor folks were just victims or accidents of geography.. That they were just not lucky enough to have been born in the US..


    Does whatever dumb **** that said that think that the US just happened by accident? That the US is the only place on earth that that anyone could be happy and prosperous?


    As far as I know, nobody in the US government, or any Americans for that matter, are gonna get pissed off if you take a few of our documents.. Like say.. The Declaration of Independence.. The Bill of rights..


    Take out "United States of America." And insert the name of your **** hole country in its place..


    Then you can have it just as good there, and you won't need to come to this country.


    Of course there might be a little work needed on your part.. Or maybe not.. If the US just happened by magic..


    In all reality, how much more do these idiots, and I'm not talking about the invaders, I'm talking about the Americans that live and work here, and support this ****, think we can absorb and afford?


    And the shutdown would not even be happening if the congress did their ****ing job.. Pull up your panties and pass a ****ing budget.. Quit kicking it down the road..


    I can't believe the American people are this stupid.. That we keep sending the same dumb ****'s back..


    I gotta go fishing.. I'm going nuts..


    But even if I had a lobotomy I couldn't possibly be a stupid as some of these democrats.. It is embarrassing that they are in office.. Some of the republicans are no better..


    But if they're there.. The scarier part is that there are a whole bunch of stupid ****ers that put them there..


    I've always said that common sense ain't very common..


    I must be a genius..


    I'm gonna go build a kite..
     
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    Don't worry people.. The president, the media, the congressional leadership, the supreme court, federal law enforcement and the other agencies like OSHA, USDA, etc.. as well as the Google ad generators, fast food restaurants, local city councils, water districts and the like have nothing but your best interests at heart, 100%, and not a single one of those is making one red penny off the continued division and hatred they all seem to condemn... Trust me people, everything will be fine..
     
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    My point is you claim he is a bad business man and can't be trusted with 5 billion. My point is he inherited millions and turned it into billions. That is not a stupid business man. My point was you bashing him for his financial decisions is like me bashing Brady for a bad pass.
     
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