What do you all think of this rod? Okuma Kokanee Black

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  1. Fisher not a catcher

    Fisher not a catcher Well-Known Member

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    So I got this low profile baitcaster Revo Toro NaCL reel a few years back. I don't think they make this exact model anymore, its a smaller revo toro, but I really like it. Took it to the surf a couple weeks ago and let my wife use the BG4000.

    I caught a few on the baitcaster, but it was rough getting it out there using the 6ft bass rod. I am looking for a good 9ft casting rod in the 1/4-1 oz lure range and found this okuma rod. On paper it looks pretty good, but the thing about kokanee rods are that they are pretty species specific, targeting soft mouth kokanee with lots of parabolic bend. That shouldn't be too much of a problem for socal surf fishing right?

    Do any of you have any critiques. Any reasons you wouldn't get this rod? I think the carbon fiber handle looks pretty cool.

    Kokanee Black Rods
     
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    I have seen the SST series (salmon and steelhead) okuma rods under wide use across southern California in the surf, and they seem well loved. Not sure how that compares to the Kokanee rods though
     
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    Kokanee rods are as stout as a wet spaghetti noodle. I wouldn’t use one for surf fishing. Tidal pull, tangled kelp and hooking into anything over 5 lbs won’t end well. I have a lamiglas kokanee rod that I love throwing kastmasters for bass in open water down here and trolling trout/kokanee when I get up north.
     
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    Bummer that the kokanee is too limp. I am having a hard time finding a good salmon rod that is 9ft, casting, medium power, and a 1/4-1oz lure.
     
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    Amazon has the Shimano Scimitar 8'6" caster MED for $40. I like mine a lot. I use a ML 8-12 for small live bait and the M 10-20 for up to 1.25-1.5oz.
     
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    Oooh that one looks like it might do what I want. The 10-20lb is rated 3/8-1oz. That's the sweet spot for me, most of what I cast is a sliding 1/4 to 3/4 oz and the occasional 1oz swimbait.
     
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    I also have a Fenwick 8’6” 10-20 MH that I used for chinook in the mouth of the Klamath....that weight/action I would use in the surf. I’ve found anything “kokanee” seems to be like pasta noodles.
     
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    This is the one, look at the MH or H ...

    Okuma Celilo Casting
     
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    I recently bought and returned that same Okuma Celilo rod in the spinning version (8’6” medium). After one session in the surf I determined that it was too soft for me.
     
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    I got a Okuma Celilo 8’6” heavy and that thing could handle some pretty big seaweed again the wave just fine.
     
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    I’d recommend taking a look at the Daiwa North Coast steelhead and salmon rods. There’s a couple in the 9 ft range that are meant for 8-17/10-20 pound line and have lure ratings of 3/8-1/3/8-1.5 oz. Wal-Mart has em cheap at times.
     
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    I use an ugly GX2 9' medium in the surf. Bombs a 1oz sinker quite a ways, handles big bass just fine.
     
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    That’s why I recommended the MH or H.
     
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    You do not hear much about them on the coast but the Cabelas Fish Eagle Salmon / steelhead rods are a good value . All the ones I have used have good actions , good fittings and good cork . The shipping tube is actually a hard case with latched end . It won't arrive broken . The 9.0' 1/2 -2oz fast action throws spoons , lures Etc. very well. Keep in mind most if not all manufacturers tend to rate the rods a little higher than than what you will find in use . Good luck with which ever you decide on . WR
     
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    Phenix has what your looking for in the Trifecta Pro line.
    9', one piece, 6-12# test, 1/4-3/4 oz. I use the same rod in the surf in spinner. Love it. The one below is in casting.

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    Phenix has what your looking for in the Trifecta Pro line.
    9', one piece, 6-12# test, 1/4-3/4 oz. I use the same rod in the surf in spinner. Love it. The one below is in casting.

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    I think I found the one boys!

    FE54CS1004-2-B
    10ft rod, 8 - 15lbs, 3/8 oz - 1 oz
    https://www.cabelas.com/product/CABELAS-FISH-EAGLE-S-S-CASTING-RODS/2430563.uts
     
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    So take this with a grain of salt, but I like to buy quality rods and reels that have good warranties and are made in the US of A. I used to fish cheap gear and found that it didn't last very long. I found that when you don't spend too much on gear you don't always treat it the best. Once I started spending more on my gear I found that I was more gentle on it and also kept up on my maintenance. I am super partial to Daiwa reels (yes I know that they aren't made in the good ole US) and have had no issues with them whatsoever. St. Croix makes their triumph series salmon/steelhead rods and I have fished them quite a bit. They aren't bank breakers, but they also aren't cheap. They retail around $130. They are quality rods with good warranties. I really liked cousins tributary and evo rods but cousins (RIP) went under. I know that most people could care less where their gear is made, but if I can put my American dollars, earned in America, in the pocket of a fellow American, while getting a quality piece of gear that the company stands behind.....that's a win for me.

    Just something to chew on.


    SAVED ROUND: St. Croix triumph rods are made in Fresnillo, Zacatecas Mexico and designed in Wisconsin.
     
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    I totally understand. My Lamiglas x-11 for my spinning setup is awesome and the first rod I spent more than $30. I totally love it and baby it more than the Walmart rods I started with. I think you can def feel the jump in quality with rods around the $80-100+ price point.
     
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