What is this?

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  1. Nucklehead97

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    I caught this next to the bait barge in dana landing while our charter boat was loading up on bait, any idea of what it could be?

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    My best guess would be a queenfish or baby white sea bass
     
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    Queenfish...
     
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    Yes, Queen fish. Used to call them brown bait, or Tom cod was another name if I remember right.
     
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    Thought the Tom cod was white croaker (kingfish to the old commercial fisherman)? Lol.. we need more names for each fish, wonder what the Hawaiian name is? Maybe we could add a few more names.. Tagalog anyone?
     
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    Yep, you’re probably right Werf. I grew up fishing 22nd st landing with my grandpa in the 70s, and I never knew what a queen fish was. It was just “ brown bait” that would show up in with the anchovies once in awhile. Some of the old guys called them Tom cods, but I knew them as brown baits, per my grandpa, and they were gold when you plucked one out of the tray. Pop pop got excited when he found a brown bait to drop down. Good times...
     
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    Are they good for anything?
     
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    Best calico and Hali bait ever
     
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    They were the best live bait when fishing the kelp beds, or just outside the kelp line. Good live bait anywhere, I would image. Just need a bit heavier rig to throw from the bank.
     
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    Damn I threw that one back.
     
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    Oh yeah, no limit on those either, I suspect
     
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    Early seventies queenfish were the bulk of the catch at the OB pier. And they are delicious. And they are a type of herring.

    And you clickheads made me go get the book. Section 2760 (b). No limit.

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    Herring? Thought they were croaker? Shows what I know. I do know they were a big part of the commercial hook and line fishery for many moons..
     
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    Back about forty years ago when we fished the Point Loma kelp they always told us from Dana or other fishermen try to get some brown bait for those large kelp bass, being such a rookie I always kept looking for small colored brown bait, never found any but I fished root beer colored scampi double tail plastics a lot back then and caught a 9lb kelp bass my personal best bass of any kind to this date.
     
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    Used to catch a ton of them from the Shelter Island pier as a kid, back in the wooden planks days.
     
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    Used to call them the golden ticket when you find one in a bait well. Big fish bait for sure. Wonder why there are not many around any more
     
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    Taking a guess here... 70s-80s Anchovy’s were pretty much all we got from the bait receivers, and the Queen fish were kinda mixed in with them. I haven’t seen a queen fish mixed in with the sardines we get these days, so maybe the queens just tend to be found in same area as Anchovy. ( wherever the trawlers find them ). And... what did happen to all the Anchovies ?
     
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    Yes, B8DHOOK , the queenfish and anchovy ran together (predator and prey), so when the chovies got scooped, the queens did too. There are some anchovy out there right now, but most of the guys here prefer fishing dines. Give the customers what they want...
     
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    I'm a 'chovy guy myself. I'll take a 4-5" Anchovy for drifting the flats for halibut over a Sardine any day. Even with my 24' Center Console, my buddies and I would much rather spend the day drifting for 'butts over chasing the pelagics offshore, and whenever the reports from the bait receivers had anchovy, I knew where we were going that day and what we were targeting.
     
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    I prefer mini macks for chasing pelagics, dines for sandies and sculpin.. everything else, chovy all the way..
     

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