Wikipedia Bias

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  1. hookemdano

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    absolutely spot on !!!


    I love Wikipedia. I donated thousands of dollars to the Wikimedia Foundation.


    Before Wikipedia, all we had were printed encyclopedias -- out of date by the time we bought them.

    Then libertarian Jimmy Wales came up with a web-based, crowd-sourced encyclopedia.

    Crowd-sourced? A Britannica editor called Wikipedia "a public restroom." But Wales won the battle. Britannica's encyclopedias are no longer printed.

    Congratulations to Wales.

    But recently I learned that Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger now says Wikipedia's political pages have turned into leftist "propaganda."

    That's upsetting. Leftists took over the editing?

    Sadly, yes. I checked it out.

    All editing is done by volunteers. Wales hoped there would be enough diverse political persuasions that biases would be countered by others.

    But that's not what's happening.

    Leftists just like to write.

    Conservatives build things: companies, homes, farms. You see the pattern comparing political donations from different professions:

    Surgeons, oil workers, truck drivers, loggers and pilots lean right.

    Artists, bartenders, librarians, reporters, and teachers lean left.

    Conservatives don't have as much time to tweet or argue on the web. Leftists do. And they love doing it. This helps them take over the media, universities and, now, Wikipedia.

    Jonathan Weiss is what Wikipedia calls a "Top 100" Wikipedian because he's made almost half a million edits. He says he's noticed a new bias. "Wikipedia does a great job on things like science and sports, but you see a lot of political bias come into play when you're talking current events."

    Weiss is no conservative. In presidential races, he voted for Al Gore, Ralph Nader, and Barack Obama. Never for a Republican. "I've really never identified strongly with either political party," he says.

    Maybe that's why he notices the new Wikipedia bias.

    "People on the left far outweigh people on the center and the right...a lot (are) openly socialist and Marxist." Some even post pictures of Che Guevara and Lenin on their own profiles.

    These are the people who decide which news sources Wikipedia writers may cite. Wikipedia's approved "Reliable sources" page rejects political reporting from Fox but calls CNN and MSNBC "reliable."

    Good conservative outlets like The Federalist, The Daily Caller and The Daily Wire are all deemed "unreliable." Same with the New York Post (That's probably why Wikipedia called Hunter Biden's emails a conspiracy theory even after other liberal media finally acknowledged that they were real).

    While it excludes Fox, Wikipedia approves even hard-left media like Vox, Slate, The Nation, Mother Jones, and Jacobin, a socialist publication.

    Until recently, Wikipedia's "socialism" and "communism" pages made no mention of the millions of people killed by socialism and communism. Even now, deaths are "deep in the article," says Weiss, "treated as an arcane academic debate. But we're talking about mass murder!"

    The communism page even adds that we cannot ignore the "lives saved by communist modernization"! This is nuts.

    Look up "concentration and internment camps" and you'll find, along with the Holocaust, "Mexico-United States border," and under that, "Trump administration family separation policy."

    What? Former President Donald Trump's border controls, no matter how harsh, are very different from the Nazi's mass murders.

    Wikipedia does say "anyone can edit." So I made a small addition for political balance, mentioning that President Barack Obama built those cages.

    My edit was taken down.

    I wrote Wikipedia founder Wales to say that if his creation now uses only progressive sources, I would no longer donate.

    He replied, "I totally respect the decision not to give us more money. I'm such a fan and have great respect for you and your work." But then he said it is "just 100% false ... that 'only globalist, progressive mainstream sources' are permitted."

    He gave examples of left-wing media that Wikipedia rejects, like Raw Story and Occupy Democrats.

    I'm glad he rejects them. Those sites are childishly far-left.

    I then wrote again to ask why "there's not a single right-leaning media outlet Wiki labels 'reliable' about politics, (but) Vox, Slate, The Nation, Mother Jones, CNN, MSNBC" get approval.

    Wales then stopped responding to my emails.

    Unless Wikipedia's bias is fixed, I'll be skeptical reading anything on the site.


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    Dude, you just made DA3 quiver in his diaper
     
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    I watched that yesterday and thought of DA3.
     
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    As usual, the losers have no suggestions whatsoever for anything better.

    FYI, Lyin' dano hasn't donated any money to W, he just plagiarized https://triblive.com/opinion/john-stossel-wikipedia-bias/ . Least he could have done is give credit to the author instead of passing it off as his own.

    Here is an example of how to give credit to someone else's saying:

    “It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.”

    ― Stephen Colbert

    Quote by Stephen Colbert: “It is a well known fact that reality has libera...”


    Encyclopedia Britannica is an alternative. Not as extensive. Usually similar info as W. If you hate W, you will hate B too for the same reasons.

    And there is the nutty right wing version of W for conspiracy nuts: Conservapedia - Wikipedia . That should appeal to some in the Lounge for sure.
     
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    hey da....I posted the link at the bottom...which proves ya didnt read the entire article, which answers your idiotic first line ...what a da !!!

    ya do continue to amaze me at how much a da you truly are...thanks
     
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    Well, first off, he's banned - at least from posting in the lounge. So we'll never know unless he gets himself un-banned. But if I had to guess (based solely on how he doesn't chance breathing without asking Wikipedia if the air is clean), I'd venture to say that this is how he would react to that column...
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    I would rather be "conspiracy nut" then a useful idiot. By the way, what right wing "conspiracies" were not true? It seems like you useful idiot Marxists are the ones constantly pushing conspiracy theories, that over time prove to be false. Everything that puts you Marxists in a bad light isn't a crazy conspiracy theory, you guys are just bad people, that do bad things, to a great country, that you hate because it is great.
     
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    A partial list of conspiracy theories, most of them right wing, which ones do you believe in?

    List of conspiracy theories - Wikipedia

    COVID conspiracy theories: COVID: Top 10 current conspiracy theories - Alliance for Science

    Some 2020 election conspiracy theories: 6 conspiracy theories about the 2020 election – debunked

    And for really nutty stuff: The Illuminati, QAnon, Lizard People, and Other Bizarre Conspiracy Theories

    I am not a Marxist (other than Groucho) nor do I hate the USA, that's your big imagination again making stuff up.

    Again, which of the above conspiracy theories do you believe in? With your big imagination, I can't wait to hear.
     
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    did ya find the link at the end, da ? uh huh

    what a da
     
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    Eventually. Unlike other websites or even Microsoft Word, it is not in a different color font or otherwise identified as a link. The website would be better with such an improvement.

    FYI, you are the "da". The guy who will believe anything as long as it supports his beliefs.

    Still can't provide another website with better reliability than Wikipedia? I provided Britannica for sensible people and Conservapedia (low reliability) for nut jobs. You have nothing?

    Urban Dictionary: willful ignorance
     
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    Wow impressive again you can Google and post links. Let's talk about relevant conspiracy theories that have been pushed by the Marxists.
    1. The Virus came from a wet market, even went as far as to call those that claimed it came from a lab conspiracy theorist.
    2.Trump colluded with Russia, tying his hands and preventing him from making more progress then he did.
    3. The big one, the Biden laptop was Russian propaganda. We most likely wouldn't have this braindead, POS, pedo in the Whitehouse, literally destroying it from within.

    As far as the election being stolen. I don't know, but I can say the Marxists cheated like hell. The covering of the Biden laptop was serious Media interference in an election. You guys went on for years about Russia because a few cheesy ads on Facebook that targeted both Clinton and Trump but not the least bit concerned that almost the entire media and tech, covered up a story, punished those who pushed it, that implicated the presidential candidate may have been compromised by foreign money. That speaks volumes about your character and how dedicated to the cause you are. You have no credibility as far as I am concerned, so save your links, I don't read them, they are usually just more Marxist propaganda and I haven't been in the mood to decipher Marxist speak lately.
     
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    i did post the link to the website...BUT...sdfish decided to display it as you saw it...BUT...no matter you did not read to the end any ways...if ya had ya woulda noticed it...so quit yer whining

    next time I will do this:

    ====> link here for da's: Wikipedia Bias <===========
     
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    Dumbass. Where have you been?
     
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    huh ... "funny" yer link displayed in a diff color just as mine had in the original post...The website would be better with such an improvement.

    sheez...what a da !!!
     
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    So can any of you suggest a better source to go to than Wikipedia for everyday information? If the answer is no, be honest and just say so.

    Despite what you might think, I go to Wikipedia a lot more often for non political information than for political opinions. For non political information and basic facts, Wikipedia is quite good.
     
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    did ya even read the article ? by your idiotic response, that would be a hell NO ya didnt read it

    what a da
     
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    Did you miss me? Never thought you would admit it. Sorry, I am not into you.

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    I bet DA3 curls up in a ball when his (or what ever pronoun he identifies by) cell phone dies. Can’t google how to function. What happens when the power goes out? Can’t search- How to Use a Generator (with Pictures) - wikiHow

    I bet there are little to no critical thinking skills with how many links “they” paste
     
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