You have sacrificed nothing... shut up!

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  1. spideyjg

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...rump-jr-all-his-familys-sacrifices-he-writes/

    Sorry disabled vet rant. When Veterans day happens or you walk through any military cemetery much less the hallowed ground of Arlington, if you served you salute the fallen service members, if you never served you thank them for what they sacrificed so you have your freedoms.

    Trump jr. Let me make it simple for you. "Losing business" does not even register on the scale compared to what our fallen soldiers lost.

    If you can't say their sacrifice allowed me to have the life I do. STFU!
     
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    These people have no shame and don't know any better. Too bad we have to put up with individuals like that.
     
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    spideyjg, I couldn't read the article because it wanted me to pay for it. But I did see the headline. That's not right.
    Thank you for your service, those who came back disabled have taken a step farther then the rest of us.
     
  4. spideyjg

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    From the article...

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    “I rarely get emotional, if ever,” Trump Jr. wrote in his new book, “Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us.” “Yet, as we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of the importance of the presidency and a love of our country.”

    He also had another revelation as he watched his father standing in front of the tomb, surrounded by more than 400,000 graves, listening to the Army Band bugler playing taps: The Trump family had already suffered, he recalled thinking, and this was only the beginning.

    In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we’d already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we’d have to make to help my father succeed — voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were ‘profiting off the office,’”

    Any challenges Trumps election caused for the Trump family doesn't rate compared to what the loss of a service member cost that family. This mook has no sense of service or sacrifice.

    As the old saying goes," All gave some, some gave all" The Trumps have given nothing to hear them try and claim some sacrifice is blasphemy.
     
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    One thing is for sure.. MILITARY FIRST. Unfortunately, there are a ton of people out there (millenials for starters) that fail understand - or choose not to understand and acknowledge - that their very freedom is secured 24/7/365 by our (my) military. Failing to recognize their sacrifices is the biggest dishonor we can do to our military.

    So, I haven't read this article at all. But I'll ask this.. Did Jr. actually verbally dishonor the military? Or is that just someone's molded interpretation of what he said? I suppose I'm coming from a place where Jr. might consider losing a billion dollars may very well be a sacrifice to a wealthy family like his.. but clearly we could never understand that because we're all ten-dollar players. So did Jr. blatantly call out the military and their families by saying that their physical/mental sacrifices could never compare to the (financial) sacrifices Jr's family has made?
     
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    To be fair, if Trump didn't have bone spurs, he would have been the greatest soldier ever. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
     
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    I read the article, but wondered if the journalist took things out of context and strung them together to make his point. Without having read the book in question, I can't be sure about this, the way journalists report things these days. just sayin'....
     
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    It was an excerpt from jrs book.

    Could be out of context but st said he made plenty of sacrifices and built a big company.

    Apple doesn't fall far from the tree
     
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    I think it was Gen Matius who recently said something like "Trump earned his spurs in his doctor's office but I earned mine in combat." Great one liner. Semper Fi.
     
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    Okay. So, did he say HIS family's monetary sacrifices outweighed the sacrifices of our military and their families? Or is this just someone's continued bitterness and hostility toward the Trump family?
     
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    Something tells me Jr. knows what a sacrifice our military superheroes and their families are making (he's plainly not an idiot and it seems to strange to think anyone believes he is one) and certainly not going to publish a remark that makes him out to be better in some way or equal to our war heroes. And I can see where sacrifices would have to be made when building a dynasty.. but you and I both know that 99.999% or more of Americans will never have a clue what building a dynasty is like, so there's no way we can relate to or identify with Trump's business sacrifices, hardships and successes in the business world.. just like (for me) there's no way I could ever identify with the sacrifices made by our military superheroes because I've never been in their boots..
     
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    The concept of sacrifice is an interesting one.. tomorrow, I will call my two favorite veterans, both took part in that chain of events some simply call 'Nam... And thank them for their service.

    THE FOLLOWING IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, A COMPARISON BETWEEN ANY EXPERIENCES I HAVE HAD AND ANY SORT OF MILITARY SERVICE.

    Service takes many forms. Although we were paid, I always considered the sacrifices of the commercial fisherman, lost limbs, digits, lives.. some would say it is all in pursuit of a dollar, some would call it a calling. For me It wasn't about the cash, more about the adventure and seeing as much of this planets seedy nonsense as possible, either as the beast, or as the philosopher, depending on what era in my life it was.. saw my comerades cut to meat chunks by exploding fiberglass tensioners, a guy on another boat take a (near?) fatal hit in a face to face make out session with an overgrown mackerel, one guy get beat almost to death for a stupid mistake... Etc etc.. all so the world protein machine can carry on, and a few of the higher ups can make the millions.. sacrifice? Maybe debatable, service, certainly not so in my mind.. either way, I will be calling the two vets close to me and thanking them...
     
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    keep your blinders on buddy
     
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    Just imagine being at Arlington cemetery where the remains of 400,000 people from the United States and 11 other countries sacrificed their lives and Trump Jr. is so moved to actually think about a money sacrifice.......are you kidding me?
    Sorry.... but there is no way to put a positive swing on this no matter how some people try.
    In the eve of Veterans Day, God bless all of the Veterans who sacrificed their lives for our country and thank you to all active military personnel.
     
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    You put it better than I did Vinny.

    "Love of money is the root of all evil".
     
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    Says the one that blindly follows along with whatever the liberal media tells him.
     
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    Says the one that blindly follows along with whatever the right wing media tells him.

    There is liberal media and conservative media, both are biased and have their own agenda. Somewhere between the two is reality.
     
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    For those of us who can't stand the MSM, regardless of their leanings, All Sides is a website that provides news across the political spectrum.
     
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    Darling, now i really hate him
     
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    I do believe visiting Arlington and writing a ten-page report on the experience should be mandatory for every person before they turn 21.. just so they know what its all about.
     
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